First Buses

buffaloskinner · Post by **buffaloskinner** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 3:42 pm

Bus fire forces closure of busy Leeds roadONE of the main roads out of Leeds was shut this morning (August 24) after a bus caught fire.The A61 Scott Hall Road northbound was closed after the incident involving a First bus near the junction of Wensley Drive, Chapel Allerton.The driver, who was the only person on the bus at the time, pulled over after seeing flames coming from the rear engine compartment at about 5.45am.Firefighters from Moortown were called to deal with the incident, but the bus had suffered significant damage by the time the fire was out.>>>>> Probably caused by those cheap chinese parts they are importing <<<<<

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 8:26 pm

buffaloskinner wrote: was out.>>>>> Probably caused by those cheap chinese parts they are importing <<<<< Was it one of the new hybrid diesel electric machines ?? They are not entirely satisfactory by any means, and driver friends have told me of some very nasty and potentially dangerous habits that they have - the buses, that is, not my driver friends !!

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 8:59 pm

I use the hybrid buses fairly regularly and one worrying thing about them is that they are extremely slow moving off when going onto a roundabout after stopping, such that traffic then coming onto the roundabout have to slow right down with many near collisions with the bus.

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 9:06 pm

Leodian wrote: I use the hybrid buses fairly regularly and one worrying thing about them is that they are extremely slow moving off when going onto a roundabout after stopping, such that traffic then coming onto the roundabout have to slow right down with many near collisions with the bus. That seems odd, as an electric motor should be quick off the mark due to the instant torque they provide (unlike an internal combustion engine which has to build some revs). Sounds like something is amiss there.

somme1916 · Post by **somme1916** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 10:15 pm

raveydavey wrote: Leodian wrote: I use the hybrid buses fairly regularly and one worrying thing about them is that they are extremely slow moving off when going onto a roundabout after stopping, such that traffic then coming onto the roundabout have to slow right down with many near collisions with the bus. That seems odd, as an electric motor should be quick off the mark due to the instant torque they provide (unlike an internal combustion engine which has to build some revs). Sounds like something is amiss there. Ahah,wait until we get the trolleybuses though......that'll cure everything of course.These speedsters will never be "caught out" on roundabouts or similar traffic "obstructions".

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 11:14 pm

Leodian wrote: I use the hybrid buses fairly regularly and one worrying thing about them is that they are extremely slow moving off when going onto a roundabout after stopping, such that traffic then coming onto the roundabout have to slow right down with many near collisions with the bus. Spot on Leodian - that is indeed the scariest thing that my friends have mentioned, with frequent "near misses." Another obvious malfunction which you frequently hear even when walking in the street is that dreadful metallic clang somewhere in the machinery as the change from electric to diesel occurs - or should occur. As far as I can tell while on the pavement many of the buses are now setting off from a standstill entirely on the diesel engine, so there's obviously something very wrong. Friends have described to me that the failure to join roundabouts or leave junctions promptly occurs when the electronics "can't decide whether to use the electric motor or the diesel engine" and by the time the circuitry HAS decided the opportunity to move safely has been lost.

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Sat 25 Aug, 2012 2:06 pm

BLAKEY wrote: Leodian wrote: I use the hybrid buses fairly regularly and one worrying thing about them is that they are extremely slow moving off when going onto a roundabout after stopping, such that traffic then coming onto the roundabout have to slow right down with many near collisions with the bus. Spot on Leodian - that is indeed the scariest thing that my friends have mentioned, with frequent "near misses." Another obvious malfunction which you frequently hear even when walking in the street is that dreadful metallic clang somewhere in the machinery as the change from electric to diesel occurs - or should occur. As far as I can tell while on the pavement many of the buses are now setting off from a standstill entirely on the diesel engine, so there's obviously something very wrong. Friends have described to me that the failure to join roundabouts or leave junctions promptly occurs when the electronics "can't decide whether to use the electric motor or the diesel engine" and by the time the circuitry HAS decided the opportunity to move safely has been lost. It seems like Worst only has two options - withdraw the buses until they are fixed and safe for the highway, or to persuade Metro and Leeds City Council to put in loads more bus priority traffic lights on the routes they are used on...

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Sat 25 Aug, 2012 2:21 pm

Geordie-exile wrote: Talking of bus names, how about this for a sense of humour? The Durham-Honolulu service:http://www.simplygo.com/our-services/wh ... ive-0/Whey aye Five O Ha ha Phill, you can of course,in the same neck of the woods,visit Toronto,Washington and Quebec without leaving this countryGeordie ex Ah knaa Quebec quite well, Ahm just up Laude Bank near the Cross Keys as wi speak/I type. Gunna hev a few bevvies in Lanchester the neet .

String o' beads · Post by **String o' beads** » Sat 25 Aug, 2012 3:05 pm

Jogon wrote: Geordie-exile wrote: Talking of bus names, how about this for a sense of humour? The Durham-Honolulu service:http://www.simplygo.com/our-services/wh ... ive-0/Whey aye Five O Ha ha Phill, you can of course,in the same neck of the woods,visit Toronto,Washington and Quebec without leaving this country Geordie ex Ah knaa Quebec quite well, Ahm just up Laude Bank near the Cross Keys as wi speak/I type. Gunna hev a few bevvies in Lanchester the neet . Esh! [a place not an exclamation]Watch out for the wooly-backs.

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Sun 26 Aug, 2012 1:05 am

simong wrote: dogduke wrote: Two Ball Lonnen. I remember seeing a photograph some time agoof a small/mini bus with that on thedestination blind-seemed to stick inmy memory for some reason It's the destination for the 62 bus from Newcastle, has been since from back when they were all yellow. Rather boringly it's named for the balls on the finials in the walls around Fenham Hall. There are pics on the interweb. The 62 used to be my chariot home.