The carvings at the Queens Hotel 'arch' over New Station Street.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Thu 02 Aug, 2012 12:19 am

Just going back to my post above, I was wondering if the boat crest could have been Southampton. Anyway whilst browsing to see I came across this, you guys will love it Coats of arms: Guess the 25 British cities.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/trave ... ities.html

biofichompinc · Post by **biofichompinc** » Thu 02 Aug, 2012 12:21 am

Slip of the quill Phill.You left out the word 'Street'.Stayed in London more or less ON Liverpool Street Station years and years ago.The hotel was called the Great Eastern.

biofichompinc · Post by **biofichompinc** » Thu 02 Aug, 2012 12:26 am

Number 15 is Preston.Recognise it from their football shirt.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Thu 02 Aug, 2012 12:34 am

Just found this website which documents all the crests, and what they mean and depict.This one is Coventryhttp://www.ngw.nl/int/gbr/c/coventry.htm

jim · Post by **jim** » Sat 04 Aug, 2012 7:44 pm

jim wrote: Just as an afterthought, it seems strange that there is no sign of the coats of arms of any of the cities due south of Leeds which were served by the Midland Railway, also part of the LMS. Where are Sheffield, Derby, Nottingham, Leicester, and St Albans? Perhaps there are further fine carvings to be found elsewhere in the station precinct. Following up my own suggestion I checked the stone clad sections of the Queens and adjacent railway office block to see if any more coats of arms were present. As far as I can see there aren't any more, but there are six prominent LMS crests and two further examples of the intertwined LMS initials. As that seems to be the lot, I feel safe in declaring that the building was almost certainly commissioned and built by the LMS alone, and that my guess that what the coats of arms have in common is that they are all from places served by the then LMS railway is borne out.All we need now is to identify the city or town represented by coat of arms B3 of drapesy's listing (page 3 of this thread)

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Sat 04 Aug, 2012 8:37 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: I was wondering if the crests depicted were like a twinned kind of thing? If the station had a Leeds crest destination, then they got one back when the new Queens Hotel was built. A sort of reciprocated gesture by the architect? Perhaps the cities had regional importance, or head offices for the rail company? That would take a bit of working out on google search I guess.Here's the GER Liverpool station City crests. It seems it was a popular thing to do by the big rail companies. That's another one to guess if anyone fancies a challenge Starting at "One o'clock" as 'A' and going round to 'H'A. Maldon B. IpswichC. NorwichD. CambridgeE. DerbyF. NorthamptonG. ???H. Essex I'm sure I've seen 'G' somewhere but can't place it

Post by **mhoulden** » Sun 05 Aug, 2012 5:53 am

Wikipedia (at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Great ... Shield.jpg) identifies them as Maldon, Ipswich, Norwich, Cambridge, Hertford, Northampton, Huntingdon, and Middlesex (which has the same crest as Essex).I had a quick look at the service panels under the overhang when I walked under and it looks like they might be there for access to the void under the floor above or possibly drainpipes concealed in the columns if there are any. One of them on Google Streetview: http://goo.gl/maps/15tTi

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Sun 05 Aug, 2012 8:07 am

mhoulden wrote: Wikipedia (at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Great ... Shield.jpg) identifies them as Maldon, Ipswich, Norwich, Cambridge, Hertford, Northampton, Huntingdon, and Middlesex (which has the same crest as Essex).I had a quick look at the service panels under the overhang when I walked under and it looks like they might be there for access to the void under the floor above or possibly drainpipes concealed in the columns if there are any. One of them on Google Streetview: http://goo.gl/maps/15tTi Thanks for that _ Huntingdon was the one I was missing. And there'e London in the centre of course

Caron · Post by **Caron** » Sun 05 Aug, 2012 10:35 am

Huntingdon...at last !!I spent ages last night trying to find the missing link.I hope someone comes up with an explanation for the religious carving soon as I cannot find anything re the carvings which really surprises me. I just get inundated with Jimmy's gold coffin and suite prices.....

jim · Post by **jim** » Sun 05 Aug, 2012 12:17 pm

The closest to coat of arms B3 that I can find is that of Inverness. The full version of that contains more features, but the version shown under the Queens arch is the major centre-piece.