Isle of Cynder

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Fri 22 Jun, 2012 8:16 pm

Was funny when i tried to open it too.

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Fri 22 Jun, 2012 9:40 pm

Jogon wrote: Leodian wrote: I have posted on page 2 an 1891 map showing the labelled 'Mill goit' on the eastern side of Leeds Bridge but I thought this enlargement of some of that Old-Maps UK map may be useful to this most interesting thread. It shows more clearly what are likely to be the steps from and to Call Lane that Jogon has previously provided information and photos. It also shows what may be some ways to cross over the goit. LeodianThanks it has opened now, my machine on blink.That is a really good quality image/map. Where did you find it please? I can't seem to view old-maps recently, they're just small. It's just an enlargement of part of the 1891 map in the Old-Maps UK website. Depending on the scale of the maps there some still can be enlarged fairly well. I do though miss the expanded view facility.I like the couple of narrow walkways over the mill goit, with possibly a loading platform at both and a small building or two at one of them to store things (or whatever use!). The users of the Old Parrot Hotel need not use the steps as there is plenty of room to reach the river opposite the hotel. I can though imagine some inebriated users still going to the steps and tumbling down into the goit! I bet there were no major concerns in those days about people falling into the river and so no calls for a fence to stop them! The Riverside Mission Room sounds interesting.

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Fri 22 Jun, 2012 10:39 pm

I think that one old building (The Mission) remains, the older row now gone.Great workI can now roughly pace out what and where in current layout and the Isle & Goits seemed to be filled & gone circa 1906.Still the mystery of whats under the station where the mill goit used to pass?

Caron · Post by **Caron** » Fri 22 Jun, 2012 11:58 pm

Thanks for the help, Jogon. Now I understand I find the area fascinating. As I keep saying, Secret Leeds is very educational. Love it !

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Sat 23 Jun, 2012 10:42 am

Jogon wrote: Still the mystery of whats under the station where the mill goit used to pass? That's my puzzlement as well. Must have been quite a fall from the bondsman dam to the east side of neville Street where the goit is about 12ft below street level.

Caron · Post by **Caron** » Sat 23 Jun, 2012 11:05 am

Cardiarms wrote: Jogon wrote: Still the mystery of whats under the station where the mill goit used to pass? That's my puzzlement as well. Must have been quite a fall from the bondsman dam to the east side of neville Street where the goit is about 12ft below street level. Philld is good when it comes to goits etc. Surely he'll know ?

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Tue 26 Jun, 2012 7:00 pm

Cardiarms wrote: Jogon wrote: Still the mystery of whats under the station where the mill goit used to pass? That's my puzzlement as well. Must have been quite a fall from the bondsman dam to the east side of neville Street where the goit is about 12ft below street level. I think a missing link here is that everyone has been diverted by the current 'live/working' Dark Arches.

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Tue 26 Jun, 2012 7:35 pm

How a name came to be used for a place can probably be asked of anywhere, but I wonder why the area is called Cynder (also given as Cinder in some old maps)? I like the interesting photo in your post immediately above Jogon. The man with the long coat and bowler hat (?) will be the 'boss 'and the man with the flat cap (?) and rough looking clothing will be the 'worker'.

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Tue 26 Jun, 2012 8:09 pm

Hello Leodian, nice to see youI did wonder, seem to be a lot of cinders back in the day. Expect with the very local power stations, gas works, coke works etc there was a lot about?Looking at the current 2012 location of the Isle I've just found http://gridreferencefinder.com/index.ph ... 01HH#which I think uses Bing Maps and has a useful birdseye and rotation keys down the left.

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Tue 26 Jun, 2012 8:38 pm

Jogon wrote: Was there a fall? The inflow river height at Aire St is way below Station. I mean between there and the exit of the goit under Nevill Street, on the east side of the arches. You can see the old goit behind the grill/down the ramp. It's a good 12 feet beloew current road level