Leeds Central Station.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 31 Jul, 2011 10:14 pm

Leodian wrote: Fascinating photos Phill. It sure looks to be a steep slope in the top image! I'm curious as to how you get photos to display directly without having to click on a red cross or do other things?As a kid in the late 1940s to early 1950s I used to sometimes play (with others) in the Neville Hill train sheds and sidings (the workers weren't normally bothered as long as we caused no problems). I wish I had a camera then as the trains we used to play on and around will now mostly be long gone. Nostalgia moment now over! Hi Leodian.Oh yes, the good old battle with the Secret Leeds 'user friendly' photo upload issue Well for me personally I use my flickr account to host the photos. I can copy and paste the photo URL code directly into the S.L comment box. It displays the photo for you. It's worth getting yourself a free flickr accounthttp://www.flickr.com/It's easy to do, hassle free, no catches. You get to host 200 photos free, and many S.L users already have flickr accounts. There is also a Secret Leeds group, and similar groups of local interest.Apart from giving flickr some free advertising, the only other way you can directly post photos on S.L (no need to have the X cross, or box to click) is get a photo hosting website like Photobucket e.t.c.You can also use a rather nice add on if you use Mozzilla Firefox for your browser. This forum tags copies the pictures URL's and adds Image tags rather nicely https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... mage-tags/

Post by **chameleon** » Sun 31 Jul, 2011 10:21 pm

Leodian wrote: Fascinating photos Phill. It sure looks to be a steep slope in the top image! I'm curious as to how you get photos to display directly without having to click on a red cross or do other things?As a kid in the late 1940s to early 1950s I used to sometimes play (with others) in the Neville Hill train sheds and sidings (the workers weren't normally bothered as long as we caused no problems). I wish I had a camera then as the trains we used to play on and around will now mostly be long gone. Nostalgia moment now over! if you have somewhere to host your ictures ( a flidkr account for example, you can use a tag to 'embed' the address of the the picture within the message which causes it to display the picture held there.If you click 'quote' on such a message, you will see the tag, [img]followed by the URL - the address. Try this with Phill's post to see it.The only unfortunate result is that if one 'quotes' to reply to such a message rather than sending a new message, the picture follows too, unlesss the tag is removed before sending, which can result in the board becoming clogged and delays in threads loading to your machine!

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Sun 31 Jul, 2011 10:27 pm

Cheers Phill and chameleon.As to my nostalgia well that will have to remain as childhood memories of watching the rare Streaker and Blinker trains pass by as I collected train numbers. I used to even collect car numbers! There must have been far fewer cars around then!

jim · Post by **jim** » Sun 31 Jul, 2011 10:45 pm

Hi Phill. Fortuitously your first photo, showing "Geldard" signalbox (note spelling, I always thought it was "Gelderd") actually shows the light engine road in the act of joining the bottom of the curve, and the crossover formed by the slip junction to allow engines going up to Central to do so on the correct track. The track on the extreme right of your photo is the northernmost of the four main tracks running through Holbeck Low Level heading up the Aire valley, and the next, the loco. line itself, can be seen to be far less used, and in somewhat neglected condition. It joind the Midland line at he other side of the High Level lines' overbridge, and I assume there was another crossover at that point.In your second picture, the tracks to the left are sidings feeding the gas works, followed by the two pairs of tracks from City. Then come the pair of tracks from Central and the Wellington Street yard branch, and further sets of sidings and the coal drop tracks.Two double crossovers can be seen, the further one connecting the Midland fast and slow tracks, and the nearer allowing trains from City to reach the Harrogate tracks and vice-versa.Hope this waffle is understandable.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 31 Jul, 2011 11:03 pm

Hi Jim.Well pointed out by you, I too always thought it was Gelderd Jnct, after all we have Gelderd Road, and the Gelderd end at Elland Road. Another confusing thing was Geldard Road Junction, which as you know must have been a good quarter of a mile from here at the end of the Farnley viaduct line. I presume that was created, and named around the same time Geldard Jnct was taken out of use in 1967?

jim · Post by **jim** » Mon 01 Aug, 2011 12:21 am

That is one junction name I didn't know about Phill - I make no claim to omnipotence on obscure railwayana. Would I be correct in deducing it was where the viaduct line was diverted to join the G.N. line in the Highfield Crossing area? As this was part of the work carried out to allow Central to be closed, and to keep the London trains out of the way of the north side of the Holbeck triangle, you could well be correct in your supposition. Unfortunately the clearances and condition of the sharply curved section of that viaduct meant that the Londons had to be diverted back again after some years, and added to the pressures which led to two extra tracks having to be built round said triangle. Incidentally, I think (totally without any supporting evidence) that the original intention would have been to name the Holbeck Low Level signal box and junction "Gelderd", and that an early version of spellcheck meant that it was retitled at some stage in the planning!

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Mon 01 Aug, 2011 12:42 am

Hi Jim.Yes you have it pretty much spot on, It was the new track layout when the Farnley viaduct line was severed from the Manchester route, and re routed towards Wakefield/London. The last time I looked the junction name board was still there, although it was last used in 1988 when the viaduct was abandoned. You can see Geldard Road Jnct here in the section titled''Canal Junction - Farnley & Wortley (Farnley Viaduct) http://www.lostrailwayswestyorkshire.co ... 20west.htm

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Mon 01 Aug, 2011 8:47 am

[quotenick="Phill_dvsn"]Jim will be able to fill in the details better here, but no doubt this is where trains would switch from the Central lines on the right, to the City station bound lines directly below the photographer. This shot is Wortley Jnct and the area today has changed beyond recognition. [quote]Phill (or Jim)Thanks for the great photos......In this second shot I see a road/street running alongside the railway wall climbing upwards.Can you indemtify the stree and the direction you are looking as one looks at the photo.Thanks you again

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Mon 01 Aug, 2011 9:04 am

Hi Parksider, yes you'd not recognise the location today, hardly any of it exists. You should be able to make out Armley prison top left of the shop, and I think the church/chapel will be what's now Mikes carpets.This is the view of the road today just past the signal boxhttp://snipurl.com/t45ui

jim · Post by **jim** » Mon 01 Aug, 2011 9:06 am

Hi Parksider. The view is looking north-west more or less from the platform ends of Holbeck Low Level Station. To the left of the railway is Canal Street, now a dual carriageway. Most people think it is Armley Road, but the old Armley Road is to the right of the railway, swinging across it on the bridge in the far background behind the impressive signal gantry, just past the Albion pub. The first section of the main road is still officially Canal Street , EDIT. Hi Phill, crossed post again!