Leeds Decade of change 1962-72 photos

[keyholekate]

cnosni wrote: keyholekate wrote: I saw the photos and thought they were fantastic. . .came back to have another look and they were gone.Reading the back posts its not hard to see why he has removed them.What is wrong with Secret Leeds these days? Every thread there is always some commotion,some posters actually told that they are no longer welcome is not good,imagine if we all worked in the same office ? Some people just have no respect or manners towards others but still I always come to this site because of the fabulous contributions by some great posters who obviously spend a lot of time researching. Anyway. . . hope that you all have a lovely christmas and a Happy New Year too. I think thats a little over the top,there is not commotion on every thread and the only person who was told they were not welcome had made derogatory,threatening and insulting remarks.If people wish that sort of behaviour to be allowed to pervade this site without being challenged then it will fall into a permanantly sad state.I didnt see the pics,which is a shame,and neither did i see the comments on Flickr,only what i seee on here.This cahp has every right to delete messages/pictures from his Photostream,BUT,if he actually is a member of The Leeds Civic Trust,and he has the aspirations he states then i would have thought a sense of civic duty,albeit in a non professional sense,should over ride any percieved negative comments.It seem such a shame,but i hope Clifford (if heas done so for the stated reasons) will rethink his position and realise that the Civic Trust have a responsibilty to everyone in Leeds,not just the members. This is just what I mean cnosni. . . posters are soon put in their place with an overtone jobsworth attitude. . it scares people off. Anyhow. . its nearly Christmas I wish you a very happy one : )

[Phill_dvsn]

Hi Kate.I'll have a go at a little peace keeping. Although i'm not sure how good i am at it lol I don't think cnosi was trying out an authoritarian 'jobsworth' attitude here Kate. I suspect if anything, he's slightly puzzled that someone could feel any sympathy for the 'unmentioned' person who wasn't made welcome on this site. I'm not sure just how much your saw of 'said person's' posts, abuse or attitude? But it was a lot, and a lot of trouble he did cause. He also has the dubious distinction to be the only person to be banned from Secret Leeds.I do feel he had many chances giving to him by the people who run Secret Leeds. Maybe if they hadn't been so lenient, and he got banned earlier, than a lot of trouble would have been saved.The reason why he was told he wasn't welcome at any Secret Leeds gathering is because he was abusive, threatening, and insulting towards the very people who were organising it. It beggers believe that he would need telling he would not be welcome in those circumstances to be honest.He left Secret Leeds with a big two finger jibe and similar insulting comment to suit. So i don't think csnosi was being 'jobsworthy' merely feeling under the circumstances he had a real valid point to make.         

[cnosni]

keyholekate wrote: cnosni wrote: keyholekate wrote: I saw the photos and thought they were fantastic. . .came back to have another look and they were gone.Reading the back posts its not hard to see why he has removed them.What is wrong with Secret Leeds these days? Every thread there is always some commotion,some posters actually told that they are no longer welcome is not good,imagine if we all worked in the same office ? Some people just have no respect or manners towards others but still I always come to this site because of the fabulous contributions by some great posters who obviously spend a lot of time researching. Anyway. . . hope that you all have a lovely christmas and a Happy New Year too. I think thats a little over the top,there is not commotion on every thread and the only person who was told they were not welcome had made derogatory,threatening and insulting remarks.If people wish that sort of behaviour to be allowed to pervade this site without being challenged then it will fall into a permanantly sad state.I didnt see the pics,which is a shame,and neither did i see the comments on Flickr,only what i seee on here.This cahp has every right to delete messages/pictures from his Photostream,BUT,if he actually is a member of The Leeds Civic Trust,and he has the aspirations he states then i would have thought a sense of civic duty,albeit in a non professional sense,should over ride any percieved negative comments.It seem such a shame,but i hope Clifford (if heas done so for the stated reasons) will rethink his position and realise that the Civic Trust have a responsibilty to everyone in Leeds,not just the members. This is just what I mean cnosni. . . posters are soon put in their place with an overtone jobsworth attitude. . it scares people off. Anyhow. . its nearly Christmas I wish you a very happy one : ) You expressed a point of view,to which you are entitled,with which a portion of i disagree with.Because i disagree with you,and i post something to that effect,then i am somehow a jobsworth and i put people off posting?If you are allowed to express a point of view then so are others,if they dont agree with you then so be it,but please dont make out they are being a jobsworth.Its a shame that you do not view someone who intimates physical violence,bullies,cajoles,insults and swears at other members as being more likeley at putting people off posting.

[keyholekate]

cnosni wrote: keyholekate wrote: cnosni wrote: keyholekate wrote: I saw the photos and thought they were fantastic. . .came back to have another look and they were gone.Reading the back posts its not hard to see why he has removed them.What is wrong with Secret Leeds these days? Every thread there is always some commotion,some posters actually told that they are no longer welcome is not good,imagine if we all worked in the same office ? Some people just have no respect or manners towards others but still I always come to this site because of the fabulous contributions by some great posters who obviously spend a lot of time researching. Anyway. . . hope that you all have a lovely christmas and a Happy New Year too. I think thats a little over the top,there is not commotion on every thread and the only person who was told they were not welcome had made derogatory,threatening and insulting remarks.If people wish that sort of behaviour to be allowed to pervade this site without being challenged then it will fall into a permanantly sad state.I didnt see the pics,which is a shame,and neither did i see the comments on Flickr,only what i seee on here.This cahp has every right to delete messages/pictures from his Photostream,BUT,if he actually is a member of The Leeds Civic Trust,and he has the aspirations he states then i would have thought a sense of civic duty,albeit in a non professional sense,should over ride any percieved negative comments.It seem such a shame,but i hope Clifford (if heas done so for the stated reasons) will rethink his position and realise that the Civic Trust have a responsibilty to everyone in Leeds,not just the members. This is just what I mean cnosni. . . posters are soon put in their place with an overtone jobsworth attitude. . it scares people off. Anyhow. . its nearly Christmas I wish you a very happy one : ) You expressed a point of view,to which you are entitled,with which a portion of i disagree with.Because i disagree with you,and i post something to that effect,then i am somehow a jobsworth and i put people off posting?If you are allowed to express a point of view then so are others,if they dont agree with you then so be it,but please dont make out they are being a jobsworth.Its a shame that you do not view someone who intimates physical violence,bullies,cajoles,insults and swears at other members as being more likeley at putting people off posting. Hi Cosni. .You are proving my point! These are the kind of posts I dont like,they make me feel unwelcome and you "sound" really stern. . . you have put me in my place once already and I get your point.And thank you Phil,I really do understand where you are coming from. Shall we be filled with the spirit of Christmas now? . . . .Happy Christmas to everyone on Secret Leeds and the fascinating stuff that people put on and have taken time to do so.Its been a pleasure to read.Cheers (clinks glass )

[chameleon]

This thread is about pictures of old Leeds. They are of course no longer available though comments about them from those who saw them are encouraged.Could we let Kate's last post on other matters be tha last and comments to the original subject of please and avoid another lengthy and unrelated debate developing with the upsets we are more than familiar with?    Technically this thread is 'done' with the loss of the pictures and should really be archived as such for future reference about the subject.

[cnosni]

[quotenick="keyholekate"] cnosni wrote: keyholekate wrote: cnosni wrote: keyholekate wrote: I saw the photos and thought they were fantastic. . .came back to have another look and they were gone.Reading the back posts its not hard to see why he has removed them.What is wrong with Secret Leeds these days? Every thread there is always some commotion,some posters actually told that they are no longer welcome is not good,imagine if we all worked in the same office ? Some people just have no respect or manners towards others but still I always come to this site because of the fabulous contributions by some great posters who obviously spend a lot of time researching. Anyway. . . hope that you all have a lovely christmas and a Happy New Year too. I think thats a little over the top,there is not commotion on every thread and the only person who was told they were not welcome had made derogatory,threatening and insulting remarks.If people wish that sort of behaviour to be allowed to pervade this site without being challenged then it will fall into a permanantly sad state.I didnt see the pics,which is a shame,and neither did i see the comments on Flickr,only what i seee on here.This cahp has every right to delete messages/pictures from his Photostream,BUT,if he actually is a member of The Leeds Civic Trust,and he has the aspirations he states then i would have thought a sense of civic duty,albeit in a non professional sense,should over ride any percieved negative comments.It seem such a shame,but i hope Clifford (if heas done so for the stated reasons) will rethink his position and realise that the Civic Trust have a responsibilty to everyone in Leeds,not just the members. This is just what I mean cnosni. . . posters are soon put in their place with an overtone jobsworth attitude. . it scares people off. Anyhow. . its nearly Christmas I wish you a very happy one : ) You expressed a point of view,to which you are entitled,with which a portion of i disagree with.Because i disagree with you,and i post something to that effect,then i am somehow a jobsworth and i put people off posting?If you are allowed to express a point of view then so are others,if they dont agree with you then so be it,but please dont make out they are being a jobsworth.Its a shame that you do not view someone who intimates physical violence,bullies,cajoles,insults and swears at other members as being more likeley at putting people off posting. Hi Cosni. .You are proving my point! These are the kind of posts I dont like,they make me feel unwelcome and you "sound" really stern. . . you have put me in my place once already and I get your point.And thank you Phil,I really do understand where you are coming from. Shall we be filled with the spirit of Christmas now? . . . .Happy Christmas to everyone on Secret Leeds and the fascinating stuff that people put on and have taken time to do so.Its been a pleasure to read.Cheers (clinks glass ) Well i think this thread has come to its conclusion,it would be very easy to reply to your message,but i suspect such a reply would result in another reply which will simply carry on a pointless debate.

[chameleon]

We are agreed Chris and in keeping with site policy, as this thread is being used now for unrelated purposes, it is time to close it. New threads to pererpetuate the argument will, in accordance with the Administrators' recent statement of purpose, be removed either by them or the content moderators.