Secret Leeds 'Terms of conditions'

[Phill_dvsn]

I think it would be a good idea to introduce a set of basic rules, and guidelines for new members to agree to before having there accounts activated.This would cut down, and make things clearer regarding the hassle we've seen in the last few weeks regarding posted content on S.L.All forums i use have a set of rules, and a basic guideline that you have to read, and click that you agree to abide by those terms of conditions before you are allowed to post. Make things clear, then everyone knows where they stand. They can't say they didn't know how to use the site, or what the site was all about then e.t.c. Anyone else thinks this should be worth considering by the powers that be?I certainly think it would help alleviate this kind of aggravation we have witnessed lately.    

[kango]

Phill_dvsn wrote: I think it would be a good idea to introduce a set of basic rules, and guidelines for new members to agree to before having there accounts activated.This would cut down, and make things clearer regarding the hassle we've seen in the last few weeks regarding posted content on S.L.All forums i use have a set of rules, and a basic guideline that you have to read, and click that you agree to abide by those terms of conditions before you are allowed to post. Make things clear, then everyone knows where they stand. They can't say they didn't know how to use the site, or what the site was all about then e.t.c. Anyone else thinks this should be worth considering by the powers that be?I certainly think it would help alleviate this kind of aggravation we have witnessed lately.     Agreed phill the only danger there though is the forum becomes over regulated. some members are already afraid to post for fear of having their heads bitten off. The mods seem to have a fair grip on it as it stands. I fear that if You become over strict there is a possibility that the forum will consist of a clique of a half dozen posters discussing a very narrow band of topics with tenuous Leeds connections.I have, like many others, have been here since 2007 (though not under this name) and I sometimes get the impression that some members regard it as "their" forum not the public one that it is.Far from reducing "aggro" phill I think it would just scare a lot folk away from the site ; not all of Us have either the age or the knowledge to make the great contributions that guys like Yourself make for say the hidden undescovered aspects of leeds or the early Leeds railway contributions from say jim.You could end up with a two tier forum one side contributing what They perceive to be interesting and relevant material, the other not wanting to be accused of being banal so make what They think is a "safe" contribution to the ever expanding failed pubs thread for example.Thats My thoughts on it Phill for what it's worth, not something I want to fall out over just My opinion nothing more.        

[cnosni]

kango wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: I think it would be a good idea to introduce a set of basic rules, and guidelines for new members to agree to before having there accounts activated.This would cut down, and make things clearer regarding the hassle we've seen in the last few weeks regarding posted content on S.L.All forums i use have a set of rules, and a basic guideline that you have to read, and click that you agree to abide by those terms of conditions before you are allowed to post. Make things clear, then everyone knows where they stand. They can't say they didn't know how to use the site, or what the site was all about then e.t.c. Anyone else thinks this should be worth considering by the powers that be?I certainly think it would help alleviate this kind of aggravation we have witnessed lately.     Agreed phill the only danger there though is the forum becomes over regulated. some members are already afraid to post for fear of having their heads bitten off. The mods seem to have a fair grip on it as it stands. I fear that if You become over strict there is a possibility that the forum will consist of a clique of a half dozen posters discussing a very narrow band of topics with tenuous Leeds connections.I have, like many others, have been here since 2007 (though not under this name) and I sometimes get the impression that some members regard it as "their" forum not the public one that it is.Far from reducing "aggro" phill I think it would just scare a lot folk away from the site ; not all of Us have either the age or the knowledge to make the great contributions that guys like Yourself make for say the hidden undescovered aspects of leeds or the early Leeds railway contributions from say jim.You could end up with a two tier forum one side contributing what They perceive to be interesting and relevant material, the other not wanting to be accused of being banal so make what They think is a "safe" contribution to the ever expanding failed pubs thread for example.Thats My thoughts on it Phill for what it's worth, not something I want to fall out over just My opinion nothing more.         Very valid points Kango,very valid.However the impression i get from a lot of people is that the Mod's (im a head banger myself) are pretty easy going.I have yet to delete a post or a thread,id rather try and reason with those who are involved in the conflicts that we have seen on here.I dont think it has to be draconian guidelines,the guidlines set by the admins are fairly clear.But we do seem to be getting into "over the garden fence" discussions which do already have perfectly appropriate sites decicated to the Leeds area.Perhaps my use of the word "Banal" in another post was a bit over the top,and in retrospect i should not have used it.

[kango]

cnosni wrote: kango wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: I think it would be a good idea to introduce a set of basic rules, and guidelines for new members to agree to before having there accounts activated.This would cut down, and make things clearer regarding the hassle we've seen in the last few weeks regarding posted content on S.L.All forums i use have a set of rules, and a basic guideline that you have to read, and click that you agree to abide by those terms of conditions before you are allowed to post. Make things clear, then everyone knows where they stand. They can't say they didn't know how to use the site, or what the site was all about then e.t.c. Anyone else thinks this should be worth considering by the powers that be?I certainly think it would help alleviate this kind of aggravation we have witnessed lately.     Agreed phill the only danger there though is the forum becomes over regulated. some members are already afraid to post for fear of having their heads bitten off. The mods seem to have a fair grip on it as it stands. I fear that if You become over strict there is a possibility that the forum will consist of a clique of a half dozen posters discussing a very narrow band of topics with tenuous Leeds connections.I have, like many others, have been here since 2007 (though not under this name) and I sometimes get the impression that some members regard it as "their" forum not the public one that it is.Far from reducing "aggro" phill I think it would just scare a lot folk away from the site ; not all of Us have either the age or the knowledge to make the great contributions that guys like Yourself make for say the hidden undescovered aspects of leeds or the early Leeds railway contributions from say jim.You could end up with a two tier forum one side contributing what They perceive to be interesting and relevant material, the other not wanting to be accused of being banal so make what They think is a "safe" contribution to the ever expanding failed pubs thread for example.Thats My thoughts on it Phill for what it's worth, not something I want to fall out over just My opinion nothing more.         Very valid points Kango,very valid.However the impression i get from a lot of people is that the Mod's (im a head banger myself) are pretty easy going.I have yet to delete a post or a thread,id rather try and reason with those who are involved in the conflicts that we have seen on here.I dont think it has to be draconian guidelines,the guidlines set by the admins are fairly clear.But we do seem to be getting into "over the garden fence" discussions which do already have perfectly appropriate sites decicated to the Leeds area.Perhaps my use of the word "Banal" in another post was a bit over the top,and in retrospect i should not have used it. As I said earlier Cnosni I think You and the other Mods have got a good grip on the job and My apologies for also using "banal" it was pretty lame sorry mate.As for the other site mentioned I took one look and ran a mile everything from outright racism to vile insults. Bit more civilised here methinks.Regards kango

[chameleon]

kango wrote: cnosni wrote: kango wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: I think it would be a good idea to introduce a set of basic rules, and guidelines for new members to agree to before having there accounts activated.This would cut down, and make things clearer regarding the hassle we've seen in the last few weeks regarding posted content on S.L.All forums i use have a set of rules, and a basic guideline that you have to read, and click that you agree to abide by those terms of conditions before you are allowed to post. Make things clear, then everyone knows where they stand. They can't say they didn't know how to use the site, or what the site was all about then e.t.c. Anyone else thinks this should be worth considering by the powers that be?I certainly think it would help alleviate this kind of aggravation we have witnessed lately.     Agreed phill the only danger there though is the forum becomes over regulated. some members are already afraid to post for fear of having their heads bitten off. The mods seem to have a fair grip on it as it stands. I fear that if You become over strict there is a possibility that the forum will consist of a clique of a half dozen posters discussing a very narrow band of topics with tenuous Leeds connections.I have, like many others, have been here since 2007 (though not under this name) and I sometimes get the impression that some members regard it as "their" forum not the public one that it is.Far from reducing "aggro" phill I think it would just scare a lot folk away from the site ; not all of Us have either the age or the knowledge to make the great contributions that guys like Yourself make for say the hidden undescovered aspects of leeds or the early Leeds railway contributions from say jim.You could end up with a two tier forum one side contributing what They perceive to be interesting and relevant material, the other not wanting to be accused of being banal so make what They think is a "safe" contribution to the ever expanding failed pubs thread for example.Thats My thoughts on it Phill for what it's worth, not something I want to fall out over just My opinion nothing more.         Very valid points Kango,very valid.However the impression i get from a lot of people is that the Mod's (im a head banger myself) are pretty easy going.I have yet to delete a post or a thread,id rather try and reason with those who are involved in the conflicts that we have seen on here.I dont think it has to be draconian guidelines,the guidlines set by the admins are fairly clear.But we do seem to be getting into "over the garden fence" discussions which do already have perfectly appropriate sites decicated to the Leeds area.Perhaps my use of the word "Banal" in another post was a bit over the top,and in retrospect i should not have used it. As I said earlier Cnosni I think You and the other Mods have got a good grip on the job and My apologies for also using "banal" it was pretty lame sorry mate.As for the other site mentioned I took one look and ran a mile everything from outright racism to vile insults. Bit more civilised here methinks.Regards kango I think I can say thank you from all the content moderators on here Kango. It is a very fine line between keeping sight of the purpose of Secret Leeds and upsetting people. All too often some do not see why they should stay vaugley in line with the other 3420 or so members because it doesn't suit them.Everyone can be assured that this site is far more leniant these days than in the beginning, when posts and threads were editted or removed for a single transgression from what was then expected. No one wants to have a regime that harsh - this has remained a friendly environment for some 3 years now - only two members have been banned during that time but, to be honest the attitudes of some here of late would more than warrant that action if direct comparrisons were to be made.The Administrators will doubtless be along shortly to 'Guide' those felt to be in need. In the mean time, the content moderators would be failing in one of the primary tasks asked of them if insulting postings were permitted to remain.http://www.secretleeds.co.uk/forum/Mess ... ighLight=1

[cnosni]

kango wrote: cnosni wrote: kango wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: I think it would be a good idea to introduce a set of basic rules, and guidelines for new members to agree to before having there accounts activated.This would cut down, and make things clearer regarding the hassle we've seen in the last few weeks regarding posted content on S.L.All forums i use have a set of rules, and a basic guideline that you have to read, and click that you agree to abide by those terms of conditions before you are allowed to post. Make things clear, then everyone knows where they stand. They can't say they didn't know how to use the site, or what the site was all about then e.t.c. Anyone else thinks this should be worth considering by the powers that be?I certainly think it would help alleviate this kind of aggravation we have witnessed lately.     Agreed phill the only danger there though is the forum becomes over regulated. some members are already afraid to post for fear of having their heads bitten off. The mods seem to have a fair grip on it as it stands. I fear that if You become over strict there is a possibility that the forum will consist of a clique of a half dozen posters discussing a very narrow band of topics with tenuous Leeds connections.I have, like many others, have been here since 2007 (though not under this name) and I sometimes get the impression that some members regard it as "their" forum not the public one that it is.Far from reducing "aggro" phill I think it would just scare a lot folk away from the site ; not all of Us have either the age or the knowledge to make the great contributions that guys like Yourself make for say the hidden undescovered aspects of leeds or the early Leeds railway contributions from say jim.You could end up with a two tier forum one side contributing what They perceive to be interesting and relevant material, the other not wanting to be accused of being banal so make what They think is a "safe" contribution to the ever expanding failed pubs thread for example.Thats My thoughts on it Phill for what it's worth, not something I want to fall out over just My opinion nothing more.         Very valid points Kango,very valid.However the impression i get from a lot of people is that the Mod's (im a head banger myself) are pretty easy going.I have yet to delete a post or a thread,id rather try and reason with those who are involved in the conflicts that we have seen on here.I dont think it has to be draconian guidelines,the guidlines set by the admins are fairly clear.But we do seem to be getting into "over the garden fence" discussions which do already have perfectly appropriate sites decicated to the Leeds area.Perhaps my use of the word "Banal" in another post was a bit over the top,and in retrospect i should not have used it. As I said earlier Cnosni I think You and the other Mods have got a good grip on the job and My apologies for also using "banal" it was pretty lame sorry mate.As for the other site mentioned I took one look and ran a mile everything from outright racism to vile insults. Bit more civilised here methinks.Regards kango Indeed,very civilised.I dont think we can ever irradicate the issue of disagreement,but we can at least try to avoid it or at the very least when it has occured accept that we may be wrong and apologise.Trust me,i have done some real howlwrs in the past and got up the next day and realised it was out of order.But this civilised site is now becoming victim to threats,intimidation and name calling.There have been some inflammatory posts made recently,but one would think that when moderatrion and apology is politeley asked for by Mod's on the site that the persons involved would try and make amends by either apologising or desisting.Unfortunateley this has not been the case,and we now have this situation.I have spent all this weekend on Secret Leeds specifically devoted to the current issue,without any pleasurable topics being discussed by myself.Thats not what i joined this site for.I ,and the other Mod's,would like to know the opinions of those who do not normally post on any thread as to how this site seems to be descending into chaos.