Pine Apple Inn, Quarry Hill

[Loafy]

Loafy wrote: Leodian wrote: I suspect I am going to seem stupid asking this but as I'm unsure I will. Is the Quarry Hill being discussed that in Leeds where the famous flats used to be? There will have been demolition since the maps but there seems to be no same road names at all currently that I'm aware of in the area. To add to my confusion though St Peter's is (I think) a name for the Leeds Parish Church which is very near to what were the Quarry Hill flats. I'm confused, but that's easily done! I was born in Stainburn Court, Quarry Hill, before the Flats were built. All the area you can see on the old maps was demolished in the 1930s. At the time I was born (1933) the area was a notorious slum; reckoned to be one of the worst in Europe! All the families from Quarry Hill were moved to the Council estates at Gipton, Torre, Mddleton, and Holbeck/Beeston. My family were moved to Glenthorpe Crescent, York Road. After living in the dreadful old house, my mother thought she had been sent to paradise! A bathroom? An indoor lavatory? A garden? By the way; the parish church is St Peter's. The area you see on the maps is St Peter's Square, known by the locals as T'muck yard.

[Si]

Thanks for the info, Loafy. Interesting that a square, supposedly an oasis of green, should be known as t'muck yard! It's nice to hear from somebody who remembers the area pre-flats.

[Loafy]

Si wrote: Thanks for the info, Loafy. Interesting that a square, supposedly an oasis of green, should be known as t'muck yard! It's nice to hear from somebody who remembers the area pre-flats. St Peter's Square was far from green! I do not remember it, but my father often talked of the square as where the local lads would play Fives (with an old tennis ball), Pitch & Toss, etc. My father said that the square was mainly covered in a sort of "clinker" and some of it bare clay.I don't remember the area before the Flats, but I did watch them being built. My school, St Charles' was opposite, in New York Road. During WW2 there was a children's nursery as part of the Flats. At one time the grass bank area in front of the nursery, facing my school, was covered in soldiers after being rescued from Dunkirk, I remember seeing them. (Or at least that is what we were told by our teachers.) I think I was about six years old at the time. A year later the area at the bottom of York Road was bombed.

[Si]

Loafy wrote: Si wrote: Thanks for the info, Loafy. Interesting that a square, supposedly an oasis of green, should be known as t'muck yard! It's nice to hear from somebody who remembers the area pre-flats. St Peter's Square was far from green! I do not remember it, but my father often talked of the square as where the local lads would play Fives (with an old tennis ball), Pitch & Toss, etc. My father said that the square was mainly covered in a sort of "clinker" and some of it bare clay.I don't remember the area before the Flats, but I did watch them being built. My school, St Charles' was opposite, in New York Road. During WW2 there was a children's nursery as part of the Flats. At one time the grass bank area in front of the nursery, facing my school, was covered in soldiers after being rescued from Dunkirk, I remember seeing them. (Or at least that is what we were told by our teachers.) I think I was about six years old at the time. A year later the area at the bottom of York Road was bombed. Hi Loafy. This 1913 view of St Peter's Square from Leodis shows that there was some greenery at one time!

[drapesy]

The building in the background is still there. The Lloyds arms was just past it

[Loafy]

drapesy wrote: The building in the background is still there. The Lloyds arms was just past it For over 60 years I have believed my father spoke of St Peter's Square. Must have been some other nearby square! He described it as having three walls against which the lads played Fives. Never said anything about railings!I well remember The Lloyds Arms; was booked there a few times as a singer! Opposite side of the road from the buildings in your photograph.Does anyone remember the vintage car on top of Autowrex? There was a pub behind in Marsh Lane. The Railway? That could be the name as there was once a Station in Marsh Lane.

[jim]

I remember the car you speak of at Autowrex Loafy, but I think it was much too early for a "vintage" description, as I recall it was a "veteran". It was perched ( somewhat precariously ) over the entrance gates.    

[Si]

Loafy wrote: drapesy wrote: The building in the background is still there. The Lloyds arms was just past it For over 60 years I have believed my father spoke of St Peter's Square. Must have been some other nearby square! He described it as having three walls against which the lads played Fives. Never said anything about railings! On all old maps, St Peter's Square is shown as a rectangle, with a large oval within it - presumably the railings. I'll have a look to see if there are any other candidates for "t'muck yard!"

[Si]

Perhaps this is Loafy's "muck yard." It's a Leodis view of Lemon Street School playground, which was between St Peter's Square, Back High Street and Lemon Street.