England flags

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 29 May, 2010 9:03 pm

Hats Off wrote: tyke bhoy wrote: ah yes, for someone who never got within 1000 miles of England and probably didn't even know of its existence. Agreed over the overpaid wally's If he had been born and bred in England then we would be accused of being too 'nationalistic' if we celebrated his day. We can't win!Regards. ps.He wouldn't have know about England as England was not established until hundreds of years after his death ! .

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Sun 30 May, 2010 12:53 am

St George is also patron saint of Georgia (ie former USSR state - not US State)- obviously one or even two countries just isn't enough for some saints.. Looking at Buffalo skinner's pic - I have to say that, by 'eck, barber's shops were rough in them days!!!

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 30 May, 2010 1:22 am

cnosni wrote: St Andrew wasnt Scottish,and when he was alive the "Scots" were still in Ireland,Caledonia was inhabited by the Picts. I think St Patrick may have been Scottish. If we're to have a patron saint, perhaps he should be St Thomas a Beckett? I don't object to St George's flags for England soccer. I generally support England teams - I'm not much of a soccer fan, but I hope they do well. I'm very keen on England cricket doing well. I'm fanatical for England RL to do well - thought they were very unlucky at Elland Road last November. The only England side i actively dislike and cheer for whoever they're playing, is the RU side. Sorry, can't help it

grumpytramp · Post by **grumpytramp** » Sun 30 May, 2010 1:41 am

drapesy wrote: Grumpytramp - isn't Scotland the 'Big Country' not the 'Big County' as stated on your location ???? I think you will find the natives may well see it that way ......... but the 'Big County' is Perthshire!

Hats Off · Post by **Hats Off** » Sun 30 May, 2010 2:20 pm

Trojan wrote: cnosni wrote: St Andrew wasnt Scottish,and when he was alive the "Scots" were still in Ireland,Caledonia was inhabited by the Picts. I think St Patrick may have been Scottish. Historians seem to think that St Patrick was born in what is now Cumbria in England in the late 300s to mid-400s.Regards.

Loiner1960 · Post by **Loiner1960** » Mon 31 May, 2010 11:10 pm

Well before St. George was patron saint of England, after the Hundred years war. It was Saint Augustine of Canterbury. Sent to convert the Saxon's to Christianity.St David was a Celt and his miracles happened in Wales.St Patrick was also Welsh and sent as a slave to Ireland.St Andrew has his relics in Scotland and that is their connection. Perhaps Northerners should begin adopting St Chad or St Oswald as our patron saints?

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Mon 31 May, 2010 11:17 pm

How about the patron saint of rubbish cheese ?- St Ivel

String o' beads · Post by **String o' beads** » Mon 31 May, 2010 11:35 pm

Leeds should have St Michael.

Si · Post by Si » Tue 01 Jun, 2010 10:32 am

Loiner1960 wrote: St Andrew has his relics in Scotland and that is their connection. Not all of them. On a trip to Patras, Greece, a few years ago, I visited the church while waiting for a ferry. Inside were the reputed remains of St Andrew's cross. A large diagonal cross was marked out on the wall, with little bits of wood attached here and there. How they knew which bit of wood came from where on the cross I don't know!I think they also have one of his mummified feet. (As is often the case with these things, I wouldn't be surprised if several cathedrals - ie, more than two - have a foot of St Andrew. It's like the skull of Napoleon held in some library somewhere...Visitor: "It's very small?" Curator: "Well, it's from when he was a boy.")PS St Andrew is also patron saint of Greece.