Quarry Hill?

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Anyone know which quarry quarry the hill gets its name from?
It used to be said that the statue of the Black Prince had been placed in City Square , near the station, pointing South to tell all the southerners who've just got off the train to b****r off back down south!

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blackprince wrote: Anyone know which quarry quarry the hill gets its name from? There's an echo See the other QH threads - much speculation but, something we've yet to determine in fact I'm affraid.    

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I wonder how far back the name Quarry Hill goes i for one think there has never been a quarry on that site could it be that there has been so much going on re land movement as in makeing the site level that the name came about?
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Who knows? The word quarry, in this context, could have been gradually changed over the years from something else, as often happens - according to the Oxford Book of British Place Names.

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Si wrote: Who knows? The word quarry, in this context, could have been gradually changed over the years from something else, as often happens - according to the Oxford Book of British Place Names. We've not considered the alternative meaning of quarry, as in 'prey' Could this area have been an old hunting ground?

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blackprince wrote: Anyone know which quarry quarry the hill gets its name from? For me you should not class Quarry Hill as the 1930's built flatsThe old Quarry Hill road took the line of the current flyover from Burmantofts down into Leeds. The land north of that and Mabgate rises steeply especially around St. Mary's Church area. That's more of a Hill, and easily could have been the Quarry area.The old flats are more on St. Peters square.

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The Parksider wrote: blackprince wrote: Anyone know which quarry quarry the hill gets its name from? For me you should not class Quarry Hill as the 1930's built flatsThe old Quarry Hill road took the line of the current flyover from Burmantofts down into Leeds. The land north of that and Mabgate rises steeply especially around St. Mary's Church area. That's more of a Hill, and easily could have been the Quarry area.The old flats are more on St. Peters square. Yeah id go with that,especially as St Marys was known as St MArys Quarry Hill.
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Given the the time scales of various reports about Quarry Hill,could this be the oldest site in Leeds still bearing its original title ?
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cnosni wrote: The Parksider wrote: blackprince wrote: Anyone know which quarry quarry the hill gets its name from? For me you should not class Quarry Hill as the 1930's built flatsThe old Quarry Hill road took the line of the current flyover from Burmantofts down into Leeds. The land north of that and Mabgate rises steeply especially around St. Mary's Church area. That's more of a Hill, and easily could have been the Quarry area.The old flats are more on St. Peters square. Yeah id go with that,especially as St Marys was known as St MArys Quarry Hill. That's interesting!If you were to strip away all the development and look at the lie of the land on that Hill then north up the Valley that Lady, Carr and Gipton Beck run in, the same hillside north of Quarry Hill that St. Mary's stands on has been extensively quarried although mainly for fireclay along Roseville road. If you travelled east up the old road quarry Hill you will come to excavations at Burmantofts for the pottery and the brickworks respectively that dig deep down into that hill.So leaving the flat area of St.Peters square aside and taking as you say St Mary's as the actual quarry Hill, then the geology contains sandstone, fireclay, coal and possibly ironstone, and in more modern times it has been mined and quarried albeit further out of leeds than St. Mary's.My problem (and I haven't the time to research it) is acess to pre-ordanance survey maps where the older mines and quarries may show up (then again may not as older maps are often devoid of many features). However one can guess that before the victorians expanded Leeds north and east into Quarry Hill, that area on the hill may have been convenient ground for early extractive industries. I do not know the exact date of the original brick housing of St. Peters square (I have lost my Beresford Book), but if it was early Victorian or even Georgian, they needed their fireclay from somewhere to make the bricks (which would have been in the open air in a "brick field".My guess may be that they dug into quarry hill for fireclay and some stone, made the bricks there, and carried them down to create the famous old slums in the St. Peters area below the hill.Interestingly, if you go to an east yorkshire village it's mainly all brick. If you go to a pennine village it's all stone. Local materials rule OK.The "building material line" runs smack through Leeds. In the west of the city moving toward the pennines our old villages are of stone from lots of easy to trace quarries, East of the city our old buildings were all brick (Dial House, Temple Newsam etc). Quarry in Horsforth means stone, quarry in east leeds means fireclay?Theory all subject to Grumpytramps approval......

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Thanks to you all for replying to my deceptively simple query. Some fascinating arguments in the replies.    
It used to be said that the statue of the Black Prince had been placed in City Square , near the station, pointing South to tell all the southerners who've just got off the train to b****r off back down south!

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