Two Structures

Brunel · Post by **Brunel** » Tue 30 Mar, 2010 7:28 pm

It is a great picture, and the size shows all the fine detail......but it is driving the browser window crazy........Might be easier just to put in the photobucket link, (via www.snipurl.com) then it can be easily downloaded.http://snipurl.com/v5x6rKeep 'em coming though.

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Tue 30 Mar, 2010 8:59 pm

blackprince wrote: HAA provided air defence up to about 24,000 ft and had an effective radius of 2 or 3 miles. They did tend to site the batteries on hills. The well documented HAA site at Otley Chevin provided air defence for the Avro factory and RAF Yeadon about 2.5 miles away. At a stretch this site at Elmete could have defended the Blackburn factory and Barnbow. Or a number of batteries on hills around Leeds could have provided area defence for the city rather than point defence for individual factories. The site would have had a control centre and sound locating equipment as well as being linked to searchlights. It would have had accommodation for about 80 crew along with an ammunition bunker and concrete lockers for ready to use ammo near to the gun pits. Another thought is that Waterloo lake would have been an excellent waypoint for enemy bombers attacking Leeds. Allied bombers certainly used large bodies of water as waypoints to navigate over Germany before the advent of ground radar ( H2S). Maybe this was just a caravan site but it would have been a feasible site for WW2 HAA . I guess that we should be grateful that the Luftwaffe didn't have their own Dambusters. The Parksider wrote: chameleon wrote: It is often rumoured that the deeper part of Waterloo Lake was used to dump old WWII amo, amongst other things, though I don't rcall anything actually being found when it was partially drained for the dam rebuilding. In 1930 there was an amnesty on WW1 weapons and ammo and the cops collected a pile of stuff and dumped it in the centre of the lake. The lake steamer was scuttled in the lake too and when they drained it the top bit showed. At it's deepest the lake is 100 feet deep down into several 'potholes'.This is where the guns and ammo was put so nobody could get it back out, but I suspect Phil D will be heavily armed soon...... Don't forget the crocodile that was also rumoured to live in there! We were always told the lake was "bottomless", which I'm sure would be deeper than 100ft

grumpytramp · Post by **grumpytramp** » Tue 30 Mar, 2010 9:06 pm

Elmete Rob wrote: If any one is interested I have a number of photo's of the House and grounds, they may take some digging out of old family albums but I am sure I could get them posted. Rob, I would love to see some!As an aside, a thread hi-jack and as a former pupil of Braimwood; I am curious to know if you have any knowledge of the flagstone covered hole in the grounds between Braimwood & Elmete Hall. From what I recall it was directly above Braimwood's top playing fields (approximately opposite the big staircase) and in the scrub above the bank.As a teen I had fanciful notions that it was something to do with the Roman Alter ......... obviously as age and commonsense kicks in I realise that it was probably a well on a spring or an old ice house!Stir any memories?Oh aye musn't forget ........ cracking plan many thanks!

Elmete Rob · Post by **Elmete Rob** » Wed 31 Mar, 2010 1:11 am

grumpytramp wrote: Elmete Rob wrote: If any one is interested I have a number of photo's of the House and grounds, they may take some digging out of old family albums but I am sure I could get them posted. Rob, I would love to see some!As an aside, a thread hi-jack and as a former pupil of Braimwood; I am curious to know if you have any knowledge of the flagstone covered hole in the grounds between Braimwood & Elmete Hall. From what I recall it was directly above Braimwood's top playing fields (approximately opposite the big staircase) and in the scrub above the bank.As a teen I had fanciful notions that it was something to do with the Roman Alter ......... obviously as age and commonsense kicks in I realise that it was probably a well on a spring or an old ice house!Stir any memories?Oh aye musn't forget ........ cracking plan many thanks! I too went to Braimwood, well for a year or two, until it became an all boys high school which was from memory a year before we moved from Roundhay out to Alwoodley. Prior to that it was St.Johns next door. Very handy for the walk home. Following that it was Boston Spa, not so handy for the walk home!I do know the spot you refer to, I was always under the impression it was a capped well (not so well capped last time I saw it). Nothing to do with the alter, it is my understanding that was found further to the west.As a side note, as a child at Elmete hall, we had a large stone trough that was filled with sand...our sand pit to play in. We always assumed it was an old horse trough. It was only a few years back whilst in york that I saw a Roman stone coffin, it was almost identical in size. Baring in mind the alter find it made me start thinking. Even to the point where I called the city museum to report my rather odd theory. I went back to have a look, and found it had gone. Presumably on the back of some ones flat bed truck. Probably was just a horse trough but hey, no one will ever know now Any way, I live in London these days but next time I am back "home" in Leeds, I'll have a dig through the old photo albums and see if theres anything interesting I can put up.

blackprince · Post by **blackprince** » Thu 01 Apr, 2010 9:17 pm

I guess that we should be grateful that the Luftwaffe didn't have their own Dambusters. The Parksider wrote: chameleon wrote: It is often rumoured that the deeper part of Waterloo Lake was used to dump old WWII amo, amongst other things, though I don't rcall anything actually being found when it was partially drained for the dam rebuilding. -Don't forget the crocodile that was also rumoured to live in there! We were always told the lake was "bottomless", which I'm sure would be deeper than 100ft Re Dambusters-We are not called perfidious Albion for nothing!I was told the lake was bottomless too by my parents . Have generations of Leeds children been mislead by this concept of a bottomless lake! If its bottomless why doesn't the water run out I hear my younger self puzzling over. Any road up it had the desired effect of instilling a bit of caution and respect when lakin about on or around Waterloo lake. ps If I ever fall down a pit shaft I hope its bottomless too.

Post by **chameleon** » Thu 01 Apr, 2010 11:23 pm

blackprince wrote: I guess that we should be grateful that the Luftwaffe didn't have their own Dambusters. The Parksider wrote: chameleon wrote: It is often rumoured that the deeper part of Waterloo Lake was used to dump old WWII amo, amongst other things, though I don't rcall anything actually being found when it was partially drained for the dam rebuilding. -Don't forget the crocodile that was also rumoured to live in there! We were always told the lake was "bottomless", which I'm sure would be deeper than 100ft Re Dambusters-We are not called perfidious Albion for nothing!I was told the lake was bottomless too by my parents . Have generations of Leeds children been mislead by this concept of a bottomless lake! If its bottomless why doesn't the water run out I hear my younger self puzzling over. Any road up it had the desired effect of instilling a bit of caution and respect when lakin about on or around Waterloo lake. ps If I ever fall down a pit shaft I hope its bottomless too. ....or you might just find yourself visiting our Aussie friends at the other end

Johnny39 · Post by **Johnny39** » Fri 02 Apr, 2010 1:59 am

We, as kids, always understood there were a lot of small arms dumped in Waterloo lake from some war or the other. Anyone know more on this subject?

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Fri 02 Apr, 2010 11:11 am

A load of hand grenades were recovered about 10 years ago IIRC.

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Fri 02 Apr, 2010 11:45 am

Johnny39 wrote: We, as kids, always understood there were a lot of small arms dumped in Waterloo lake from some war or the other. Anyone know more on this subject? I posted it earlier - a 1930 police amnesty of WWI arms and ammunition, dumped in the deep part of the lake

big_rob2004 · Post by **big_rob2004** » Fri 02 Apr, 2010 12:04 pm

This appears to have become a bit off topic in some sense but I love everything about Roundhay Park. I live on Boggart Hill Drive so it's quite litterally a 10 min stroll away. I have recently walked through the Braimwood Grounds (my old High School) and am amazed by how small the actually building was!Anyway I find the actual park is full of mystery and as I am slightly tuned in to the spirit world I always get a feeling of someone watching from the woods at night when on the Eastern side of the Dam. Which brings me neatly on to something I saw with my brother many years ago whilst talking a walk through the Northern Gorge. On the eastern hill we saw a bright glowing object which looked like a gravestone in the trees. Not quite sure what it was as we have never seen it since!I would love to go back to dicks days though and see the lake before it was a lake, the armitage, the keepers house on the north east of the lake, amongst other things in the park.