Railway in beeston

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 06 Feb, 2010 10:57 am

Thanks to Barwicker for sending me the map of the railway around Middleton and Beeston.I've uploaded it into the Secret Leeds flickr group.Perhaps someone can upload it here for me.The pic can be seen herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/phill_dvsn/433452 ... etleedsThe old coal staithe i mentioned by the river was very old indeed, it was in operation from 1755-1807.Thanks Parksider

Post by **chameleon** » Sat 06 Feb, 2010 11:30 am

If it will.... And it won't. DUNCAN!!!!!

Brunel · Post by **Brunel** » Sat 06 Feb, 2010 12:15 pm

Success at last...!!!!.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 06 Feb, 2010 12:19 pm

OH BUGGERY!! Edit - chameleon: IT's THERE IN BRUNEL'S POST NOW! Link works

Brunel · Post by **Brunel** » Sat 06 Feb, 2010 1:01 pm

Not able to post pic. direct, have had to post to Google and put direct link in.Forum software still broken.

Post by **chameleon** » Sat 06 Feb, 2010 1:56 pm

Brunel wrote: Not able to post pic. direct, have had to post to Google and put direct link in.Forum software still broken. Where there's a will there's a way - just need some techies to agree now

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 06 Feb, 2010 2:35 pm

There's lines there abandoned since 1758, It just goes to show how old that Middleton railway really is doesn't it?

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Sat 06 Feb, 2010 3:28 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: Thanks to Parksider for sending me the map of the railway around Middleton and Beeston.The old coal staithe i mentioned by the river was very old indeed, it was in operation from 1755-1807.Thanks Parksider Phil - I didn't send you the map? Don't you mean Brunel.Waggonways were of course used long before the "1758" middleton Railway and in his recent work Martin Roe identifies waggonways from coal pits that do not appear on the map published here.They are mainly coming down from the coal mines in Middleton Wood above the Broom site. there are plenty - Wood pit, balkcliffe pit (later served by another route through Middleton itself) Park Pit, Rookery Pit, Lucky pit and Rein pit.The Casson close staith was the older one that was near to Leeds bridge so they say, but the one pictuted on Leodis is the one built when they shortened the line. Maps of the area show "coal staithe road" on the north side of Gt. Wilson street so "near the river" probably did not mean that near.(I think) the line into leeds was to serve Leeds not to load at the River - that is whey there was a line across to the River heading east - the shorter route.I like the name "Rein" pit. It's a word that means a collection ground for water where a stream begins like "The Rein" in seacroft. The land at Rein Pit even today slopes down to feed belle isle beck.Rein is not in the oxford Dictionary in this sense but of course they don't speak proper northern english in Oxford you know....

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 06 Feb, 2010 3:30 pm

LOL. It was Barwicker.. I get so many e-mails to confuse me. I'll edit the other bit

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Sat 06 Feb, 2010 3:33 pm

The Parksider wrote: The Casson close staith was the older one that was near to Leeds bridge so they say, but the one pictuted on Leodis is the one built when they shortened the line. Maps of the area show "coal staithe road" on the north side of Gt. Wilson street so "near the river" probably did not mean that near.(I think) the line into leeds was to serve Leeds not to load at the River - that is whey there was a line across to the River heading east - the shorter route. I think they shortened the line about 100 yards if that to build great wilson street. The staith continued to supply coal locally so I see no evidence the Casson Close staithe was at the river more like 200 yards south of Leeds bridge.Bru's map shows the route to the River - probably followed Balm beck a bit?