Derelict Mansion Next to a Walnut Tree

[chameleon]

The Parksider wrote: chameleon wrote: travel up the hill of Austhorpe Lane and the Lodge was towards the top on the left. I'm not sure if the Hall was built in the same style but, this is a picture of it as it stands today. The lodge was to the left and furher bac down the hill. Isn't the Hall on the left half way up the hill from Manston Hall/pub and the Lodge was further up the hill, in fact at the top where the Devon estate is now?Was the Hall Smeatons home? Whose was the Lodge?? Any connection - perhaps by the look of them same builder - was it Wimpeys or Barrets? Ihave it in my mind's eye that the lodge was lower than the Hall, certainly on the left. On Old Maps, its postion seems almost mobile depending on the year! And the hall doesn't seem to be shown.The Lodge was the home of Smeaton - something to do with a water wheel somewhere Don't think Mr Wimpey was around then

[uncle mick]

Wimpey company sloganWe Import More Paddys Every YearYES, i know it's a old one

[chemimike]

don't know if this 1908 map is any help

[Bert]

Thanks Chemimike. Fascinating map. When Poole Square was just a field! Am I right in thinking that Austhorpe Lodge would have been off this map past its bottom right corner - i.e. in present day terms well up towards the area that is now just to the northwest of the Ring Road/Selby Road/Colton Road junction? Hate calling it Colton Road by the way - when I lived in Colton it was still Gypsy Lane with their colourful horse-drawn wagons often parked down it near what we called Three Well Wood (although I could only ever find two old wells in it!.

[chameleon]

Thats one of the Godfrey maps which presently don't extend any further east. This image (reproduced here for research purposes!) is from a map dated 1953. The area of interest is marked.You might like playing with 'Old Maps', using Austhorpe for your search. Bit finicky, but a good resource -http://www.old-maps.co.uk/EDIT: THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE SITE HOST - ERROR MESSAGES (rather like old times!) ' Could not allocate space for object 'Attachment' in database 'cl07_forum' because the 'PRIMARY' filegroup is full' WILL TRY TO UP LOAD LATER

[chameleon]

chameleon wrote: Thats one of the Godfrey maps which presently don't extend any further east. This image (reproduced here for research purposes!) is from a map dated 1953. The area of interest is marked.You might like playing with 'Old Maps', using Austhorpe for your search. Bit finicky, but a good resource -http://www.old-maps.co.uk/EDIT: THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE SITE HOST - ERROR MESSAGES (rather like old times!) ' Could not allocate space for object 'Attachment' in database 'cl07_forum' because the 'PRIMARY' filegroup is full' WILL TRY TO UP LOAD LATER Let's try this then:http://www.flickr.com/photos/chameleon2008/4276552165/

[Bert]

Thanks a million Chameleon. Lovely map (I see it shows what we called Three Well Wood as "Old Shafts").I feel more and more convinced that the ruin we played in must have been the Lodge. It just feels right to me (not least because the more I try to remember going there, the more I feel that it was actually well off my normal beaten track, and this area certainly would have been that). It's frustrating that there are none of the usual before-and-after shots on Leodis showing what became of the area, which might have offered more clues. I wonder if the Walnut tree survived?Thanks all for you help. Fascinating stuff.

[The Parksider]

chameleon wrote: Let's try this then:http://www.flickr.com/photos/chameleon2008/4276552165/ Ta for that. Austhorpe Hall half way up the hill on the left, from the railway bridge opposite the Manston.Austhorpe Lodge and Walnut tree at the top of the hill on the right.Interestingly opposite the site of the lodge remains a very old bit of red brick wall and your map names this bit as Smeaton Farm.Also interestingly the Fram, the lodge and the hall are all of very old brick. West Yorkshire Colliery was full of firecaly round the corner (It's in the dumps) so I assume the bricks were made locally - wonder where.

[Brandy]

Bert have you seen some of the maps/info on the tithe site? heres the link http://locateit.leeds.gov.uk/tithemaps/ ... IR30_43_22

[chameleon]

The Parksider wrote: chameleon wrote: Let's try this then:http://www.flickr.com/photos/chameleon2008/4276552165/ Ta for that. Austhorpe Hall half way up the hill on the left, from the railway bridge opposite the Manston.Austhorpe Lodge and Walnut tree at the top of the hill on the right.Interestingly opposite the site of the lodge remains a very old bit of red brick wall and your map names this bit as Smeaton Farm.Also interestingly the Fram, the lodge and the hall are all of very old brick. West Yorkshire Colliery was full of firecaly round the corner (It's in the dumps) so I assume the bricks were made locally - wonder where. Yes, WY Colliery shown (the shaft head we found) and note the old shafts notated adjacent to Brown Moor. between the two near the well are I think the cottages and ? bell pits I've seen mentioned.