I am lost for words (nearly) at this...

[kango]

"The 7/7 bombers were Asians, but they were also from Beeston. Which is more significant? Are all Asians likely to kill themselves by blowing up tube trains? Or are all the residents of Beeston likely to kill themselves by blowing up tube trains? "If memory serves not all were from Beeston, the Hillside school assistant worked in Beeston but lived somewhere in the heavy woollen district(Dewsbury I think), one lived in Holbeck,and another in Aylesbury Buckinghamshire ( non-Asian) , but point taken anyway.In the fifty years I've lived around here I, nor anyone I know has had the desire to blow up a tube train. I really don't think the district had anything to do with it, more a warped religious concept methinks.            

[Trojan]

kango wrote: "The 7/7 bombers were Asians, but they were also from Beeston. Which is more significant? Are all Asians likely to kill themselves by blowing up tube trains? Or are all the residents of Beeston likely to kill themselves by blowing up tube trains? "If memory serves not all were from Beeston, the Hillside school assistant worked in Beeston but lived somewhere in the heavy woollen district(Dewsbury I think), one lived in Holbeck,and another in Aylesbury Buckinghamshire ( non-Asian) , but point taken anyway.In the fifty years I've lived around here I, nor anyone I know has had the desire to blow up a tube train. I really don't think the district had anything to do with it, more a warped religious concept methinks.             quite

[cnosni]

kango wrote: "The 7/7 bombers were Asians, but they were also from Beeston. Which is more significant? Are all Asians likely to kill themselves by blowing up tube trains? Or are all the residents of Beeston likely to kill themselves by blowing up tube trains? "If memory serves not all were from Beeston, the Hillside school assistant worked in Beeston but lived somewhere in the heavy woollen district(Dewsbury I think), one lived in Holbeck,and another in Aylesbury Buckinghamshire ( non-Asian) , but point taken anyway.In the fifty years I've lived around here I, nor anyone I know has had the desire to blow up a tube train. I really don't think the district had anything to do with it, more a warped religious concept methinks.             Indeed,so we must be very careful to say "Asian",as radical Muslims are from any continent,remember the shoe bomber and of course the new Y front bomber(i just made that up,Y front bomber,do you like that,eh, eh?)

[Keg]

Whilst i would happily dish out the same to the father a he did to his own child ( but i am 19st), it's worth mentioning that all races,cultures & creeds have had there extremists in the past but sadly, the muslim community has its fair share now.. I don't know what the simple answer is.

[buffaloskinner]

Is this THUG any better, you get longer for not paying your car tax.http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 5973518.jp

[Keg]

Sadly Buffalo, no. It's a sad reflection of the world we live in. I am normally right of Ghengis Khan in my views, and not normally an apologist so whilst not excusing his behaviour in any way, if you listen to the news, the lad started off with little or no hope, violent father and mum died early on in his young life.As i say does not excuse him but does support the fact that in an "ideal world", the family is the best way to bring a child up where possible. That's not to say single/adoptive or foster parents do not do a good job, far from it. But let's start with getting the basics right

[Trojan]

buffaloskinner wrote: Is this THUG any better, you get longer for not paying your car tax.http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 5973518.jp The law always seems to punish property crime more severely than attacks on people. I have two relatives, in the early seventies both were in trouble with the law, one killed two people in a drink drive accident, he got a large fine, the other who TBF had gone a bit funny after his father died, attempted to set fire to the shop of his former employer - he got 18 months in Borstall.

[Keg]

Good point Trojan, I find some of the law makers logic very weird, doesn't help when the judiciary put their own spin on it

[Si]

buffaloskinner wrote: Is this THUG any better, you get longer for not paying your car tax.http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 5973518.jp Pathetic excuse for a human being.It just shows that, with a little help from his defence (I don't know how some of them sleep at night) they'll tell any old lies to try and wriggle out of it. At 16, he's a career anti-social yob, and we're supposed to believe that he didn't know bleach was dangerous? Give over. If he just wanted to "embarrass" his victim, why didn't he just use water? Causing bother in cinemas seems to be on the increase. It's happened to us, when a large group of female yoofs were intent on spoiling the film for everyone else, by shouting, making loud phone calls, and running up and down the aisles. There wasn't a member of staff (who incidentally all looked about 18 ) in the auditorium, so several of us went to tell them to shut it. Just made it worse. Eventually, an off-duty police officer had a word, and they all burst into tears, and thankfully left. On leaving the cinema, we were all told in the foyer by the staff, that we had ruined the film for them. That was the last time I'll go out to see a film.    

[Trojan]

[quotenick="SiCausing bother in cinemas seems to be on the increase. It's happened to us, when a large group of female yoofs were intent on spoiling the film for everyone else, by shouting, making loud phone calls, and running up and down the aisles. There wasn't a member of staff (who incidentally all looked about 18 ) in the auditorium, That is the problem. They aren't really cinemas in the old sense are they? They're just huge barns with several sealed compartments for showing films. I own up to once being banned from our local cinema (I was chatting up a girl) It took me about 6 months before they'd let me in again. But the point is there was someone there to put a stop to my being naughty, and that someone who recognised me the next time I tried to get in. At Showcase I bet the same kids'd be there the following day and no one would notice.