Weaver's Square, Bank

Post by **cnosni** » Thu 17 Sep, 2009 10:05 pm

This could be anothe directory hunt SiBy the way,Carlsberg have said they are going to keep Tetley Cask brewed in Yorks.As the saying goes:-"Saw this ,and thought of you"http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 655829.jpI can hear the little tears of joy in Otley from Beeston

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Thu 17 Sep, 2009 10:39 pm

Si wrote: Geordie-exile wrote: Si wrote: The Boot and Shoe opposite Weaver's Square.Does it look late 18th century? Also, on the 1908 map, a pub is shown in Weaver's Square. Anyone know it's name? It reminds me of the Spring Close only bigger. Wonder when that was built? Although nearby, I think the Spring Close is Victorian. The B&S looks older to me.Drapesy? Any ideas? Yes I think you're right - The Spring close is obviously an old building but doesn't look as old as The Boot and Shoe which I would put as being older than Georgian - it doesn't have the symmetry I'd expect in a Georgian building

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Fri 18 Sep, 2009 8:42 am

cnosni wrote: This could be anothe directory hunt SiBy the way,Carlsberg have said they are going to keep Tetley Cask brewed in Yorks.As the saying goes:-"Saw this ,and thought of you"http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 655829.jpI can hear the little tears of joy in Otley from Beeston Off topic but personally I wouldn't acept the "sop" of a supposed tetley cask ale still being brewed under license round here.If it ain't brewed at Tetleys it ain't Tetleys. To the recipe or not.I would not give the brewery and their shareholders that shut Tetleys a penny profit and given the wonderful beers the micros produce I wouldn't be slitting my own throat.If you want to support a wonderful brew and brewery take your pick - I'll go for the Leeds Brewery lads........

Si · Post by Si » Fri 18 Sep, 2009 1:03 pm

Thanks again, everyone.I agree, Parksider. I was a big Tetley Mild fan in the 70s - it's never been the same since (also the bitter.) Yes, I support Leeds Brewery now. I also like Taylor's and Black Sheep.You could be right, Drapesy. There isn't much symmetry, and the roof is quite steeply pitched. However, I think the windows may have been changed (they look Victorian - no mullions and quite flush with the walls.) The door frame looks typically Victorian to me, too. I love the way the pub's name is painted directly on to the rendered wall, rather than on a wooden sign.I wonder what Braimes Ales were like, as advertised in the window?

uncle mick · Post by **uncle mick** » Fri 18 Sep, 2009 3:08 pm

liits wrote: Si wrote: Thanks everyone.How did you know it was the Leeds Arms, Liits?The Boot and Shoe was on the corner below the ND of Richmond Street on the map.This is the site today, thanks to Google Earth street view. Note East Street Mills still visible behind, and Smithies Garth Rec beyond Bow Street. Leeds Arms, 54 Weaver Square, Richmond St. shows in Kelly's Directory 1916 as a commercial lodging house [prop. Mrs J Robinson]In the 1925 Leeds Trade Directory as the Leeds Arms and by the time the 1947 Kelly's is published [so the info was collated around 1945/46] Weaver Square is gone. My earlier [than 1916] edition of Kelly's is on loan to my brother at the moment so I can't check the details. 1872 White's Directory Beerhouse Leeds Arms Weavers Square J Lassey1908 Kelly's Directory Exactly the same, with the same owner or Landlord. Good job in those days,36 years at least1853 White's Directory Inns and Taverns Leeds Arms Richmond Street E Milner 1837 White's Directory Inns and Taverns Leeds Arms 24 Richmond Street James Mitchell

Si · Post by Si » Fri 18 Sep, 2009 4:22 pm

That's great, Mick. Thanks. Do you have the directory entries for The Boot and Shoe as well?

wiggy · Post by **wiggy** » Fri 18 Sep, 2009 4:49 pm

Si wrote: The Boot and Shoe opposite Weaver's Square.Does it look late 18th century? Also, on the 1908 map, a pub is shown in Weaver's Square. Anyone know it's name? looks 1830s/40s to me..

uncle mick · Post by **uncle mick** » Fri 18 Sep, 2009 5:15 pm

Si wrote: That's great, Mick. Thanks. Do you have the directory entries for The Boot and Shoe as well? 1837 Hotels Inns and Taverns Boot and Shoe Riichmond Street J Stenson1872 Hotels Inns and Taverns Boot and Shoe 20 Richmond Street J Watson1908 Can't find it at the mo.Got to get to work and pull a few pints myself Michael

Post by **cnosni** » Fri 18 Sep, 2009 5:41 pm

drapesy wrote: Si wrote: Geordie-exile wrote: Si wrote: The Boot and Shoe opposite Weaver's Square.Does it look late 18th century? Also, on the 1908 map, a pub is shown in Weaver's Square. Anyone know it's name? It reminds me of the Spring Close only bigger. Wonder when that was built? Although nearby, I think the Spring Close is Victorian. The B&S looks older to me.Drapesy? Any ideas? Yes I think you're right - The Spring close is obviously an old building but doesn't look as old as The Boot and Shoe which I would put as being older than Georgian - it doesn't have the symmetry I'd expect in a Georgian building That would mean older than the Crown and Fleece Drapesy,as Si says the windows and the door look victorian late Georgian at a push.Not to say that an older building wouldnt have had some sort of refurb,but the doorway and windows would have been smaller if earlier than Georgian (in such a low quality building as this) so the cost and work to have these enlarged would have been considerable.Could be a new" Pubs of Kirkgate",pubs of East Street and East End Park",plenty to get your teeth into there matey

Si · Post by Si » Fri 18 Sep, 2009 6:29 pm

Thanks, Uncle Mick. Have one on me!!!At least we know it's pre-1937 (ie: pre-Victorian.)It's not unheard of for old buildings to be totally refurbished. Look at the wooden framed building further up the thread. It looks possibly medieval, but encased in a later brick skin. Also, a great example is the Royal Oak, on the corner of Bridge Street in Otley, now a solicitors. There is a later extension with a fine rusticated doorway and window surrounds. The older part has obviously been updated to match. You can see where the old windows were, especially on the top floor, and the newer window surrounds are bodged with a bit of brickwork (the building is stone.) All this would have originally been hidden by rendering, I'd guess. Have a look next time you're in Otters, Chris. We could have a pint (of Tetley's!) in The Bay Horse, and walk down the ginnel to have a look at the old Royal Oak!