Changing Names

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Wed 01 Apr, 2009 8:56 am

Tasa wrote: The Parksider wrote: Go on then where's....Bagby FieldsIn Leeds........................... Bagby Fields was off St Mark's Road and behind Blenheim Walk, where Leeds College of Art is now. My best friend from primary school lived in Bagby Road. Another ceegar won here

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Wed 01 Apr, 2009 9:03 am

Brandy wrote: New Scarboro=bramley/swinnow? Ceegar.Area around the Daisy.

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Wed 01 Apr, 2009 9:11 am

drapesy wrote: The Parksider wrote: where in Leeds........................... Six cigars to the mighty Drapemeister...Camp FieldManns FieldBeechwoodHoggs fieldNew Huddersfield........... still go go

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Wed 01 Apr, 2009 9:45 am

NEW SCARBOROUGH - an area on the main A65 near the junction with Kirk Lane at Yeadon. Its close to what is now Morrison's petrol station, and (just 200 yards further towards Guiseley) where the imposing Aireborough Grammar School once stood.

Si · Post by Si » Wed 01 Apr, 2009 10:26 am

The Parksider wrote: drapesy wrote: The Parksider wrote: where in Leeds........................... Six cigars to the mighty Drapemeister...Camp FieldManns FieldBeechwoodHoggs fieldNew Huddersfield........... still go go Not Stanningley, is it? There was a Huddersfield Arms there.

Post by **cnosni** » Wed 01 Apr, 2009 10:03 pm

Si wrote: The Parksider wrote: drapesy wrote: The Parksider wrote: where in Leeds........................... Six cigars to the mighty Drapemeister...Camp FieldManns FieldBeechwoodHoggs fieldNew Huddersfield........... still go go Not Stanningley, is it? There was a Huddersfield Arms there. No mate,New Huddersfield was defo Woodhouse

Post by **cnosni** » Wed 01 Apr, 2009 10:11 pm

Early nineteenth century Gazateer description of Leeds shows the following for Chapel Allerton in Leeds"CHAPEL ALLERTON, in the borough and parish of Leeds, lower-division of Skyrack, liberty of Pontefract; 2¼ miles N. of Leeds, 5¼ from Harewood, 9 from Wetherby, 11 from Otley. Pop. 1,678. The Church is a perpetual curacy. Patron, the Vicar of Leeds. Robert Parker, of Browsholme, says Thoresby, built an hospital here for ten widows, to whom he has given £50. per annum, for nearly twenty years past, and designed to augment the endowment at his death very considerably. Whether this design was put into execution or not, we have not learned." "MOOR ALLERTON, a hamlet in the township of Chapel Allerton, and parish of Leeds, lower-division of Skyrack, liberty of Pontefract; 3¼ miles from Leeds. The north part of the borough of Leeds terminates here." "ALLERTON GRANGE, in the township of Chapel Allerton, and parish of Leeds, 3½ miles from Leeds. This place formerly belonged to the Abbot and Convent of Kirkstall. The family of the Killingbecks which is of considerable antiquity in these parts, were tenants to it before the dissolution. --Thoresby." "POTTERNEWTON, in the parish of Leeds, lower-division of Skyrack, liberty of Pontefract; 2 miles N. of Leeds, 6 from Harewood, 9 from Otley. Potternewton, which, Dr. Whitaker says, with Chapel Allerton and Gledhow, constitutes the most beautiful portion of the parish of Leeds, was anciently a seat of the Mauleverers, who came over with the Conqueror, and which family was seated here at least eight generations. --Thoresby." There is no mention of the term Chapeltown whatsoever.I wonder when the term did come in to use,as Drapesy points out Thoresby mentions it.is this mention a modern interpretation or does the original actually show Chapeltown?Lee (LS1),dont you have a cdrom copy of Ducatus?

simong · Post by **simong** » Wed 01 Apr, 2009 10:15 pm

BLAKEY wrote: NEW SCARBOROUGH - an area on the main A65 near the junction with Kirk Lane at Yeadon. Its close to what is now Morrison's petrol station, and (just 200 yards further towards Guiseley) where the imposing Aireborough Grammar School once stood. Still signposted at the roundabout at the junction of Harper Lane and Yeadon High Street. It's New Scarboro according to the sign though. A drinking partner mentioned it last week, oddly enough, and I got the impression that it's the area in between Kirk Lane, Henshaw Lane and the A65.

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Thu 02 Apr, 2009 12:21 am

simong wrote: BLAKEY wrote: NEW SCARBOROUGH - an area on the main A65 near the junction with Kirk Lane at Yeadon. Its close to what is now Morrison's petrol station, and (just 200 yards further towards Guiseley) where the imposing Aireborough Grammar School once stood. Still signposted at the roundabout at the junction of Harper Lane and Yeadon High Street. It's New Scarboro according to the sign though. A drinking partner mentioned it last week, oddly enough, and I got the impression that it's the area in between Kirk Lane, Henshaw Lane and the A65. This gets more interesting simonq and the exact area seems open to debate. I have looked at my old Samuel Ledgard fare tables from 1958 and, for the Leeds - Guiseley - Ilkley route along the main A65 road, are three fare stages as follows :-Henshaw LaneNew Scarborough OR Nunroyd MillsOxford Road (Station Hotel)The middle one was what was known as a "double stage" and, depending on direction of travel, was intended to slightly cheapen the journey for some key workers. Our habit was to call out "New Scarborough" at Aireborough Grammar School stop (just the Guiseley side of Kirk Lane) where all the new houses are now. So I can't help any further than that at present I'm afraid - perhaps some senior local folk can ?? - keep an ear open at the inn !! Oh just had an afterthought. There used to be a small but excellent coach firm right at the junction of the A65 and Kirk Lane. This was E. Grange and Sons, Guiseley and Yeadon Tours. Mr. Grange lived in the large house which I believe is still there near the Jet petron station - and the firm's registered address was I'm almost certain "New Scarborough."

LS1 · Post by **LS1** » Thu 02 Apr, 2009 8:57 am

cnosni wrote: Early nineteenth century Gazateer description of Leeds shows the following for Chapel Allerton in Leeds"CHAPEL ALLERTON, in the borough and parish of Leeds, lower-division of Skyrack, liberty of Pontefract; 2¼ miles N. of Leeds, 5¼ from Harewood, 9 from Wetherby, 11 from Otley. Pop. 1,678. The Church is a perpetual curacy. Patron, the Vicar of Leeds. Robert Parker, of Browsholme, says Thoresby, built an hospital here for ten widows, to whom he has given £50. per annum, for nearly twenty years past, and designed to augment the endowment at his death very considerably. Whether this design was put into execution or not, we have not learned." "MOOR ALLERTON, a hamlet in the township of Chapel Allerton, and parish of Leeds, lower-division of Skyrack, liberty of Pontefract; 3¼ miles from Leeds. The north part of the borough of Leeds terminates here." "ALLERTON GRANGE, in the township of Chapel Allerton, and parish of Leeds, 3½ miles from Leeds. This place formerly belonged to the Abbot and Convent of Kirkstall. The family of the Killingbecks which is of considerable antiquity in these parts, were tenants to it before the dissolution. --Thoresby." "POTTERNEWTON, in the parish of Leeds, lower-division of Skyrack, liberty of Pontefract; 2 miles N. of Leeds, 6 from Harewood, 9 from Otley. Potternewton, which, Dr. Whitaker says, with Chapel Allerton and Gledhow, constitutes the most beautiful portion of the parish of Leeds, was anciently a seat of the Mauleverers, who came over with the Conqueror, and which family was seated here at least eight generations. --Thoresby." Yeah, it's searchable too so I'll give it a whirl when I get home. (have to find it first!)There is no mention of the term Chapeltown whatsoever.I wonder when the term did come in to use,as Drapesy points out Thoresby mentions it.is this mention a modern interpretation or does the original actually show Chapeltown?Lee (LS1),dont you have a cdrom copy of Ducatus?