New Link Road

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Tue 02 Dec, 2008 10:55 pm

In the paper the other day was a picture of the super duper new link road.Typical rubbish reporting spent several columns congratulating the great and the good and telling us how zillions of jobs would be created, but didn't actually state where it was.I half took it to be the opening of Pontefract Lane which had a anoyingly blocked junction with the new M1 - A1 link for some time, but the "A63 - SE Leeds" sign threw me.Where pray is it. First to answer gets a cub reporter job at the YEP.

Post by **chameleon** » Wed 03 Dec, 2008 12:04 am

This is the one which joins South Accommodation Road with the M1 at the Pontefract Lane junction is it not?Said to join with the Inner Ring Road to complete the ring - the route from the A64 must be from the Woodpecker (Burmantofts Street) junction and through the mriad of traffic lights towards the centre and down Marsh Lane to South Accommodation Road perhaps?If this is so, it is very popular, from 4.00pm traffic sits almost stationary from the Woodpecker slip road back down the Inner Ring Road back to the tunnel and further with the effects on traffic movement and stagnation of the traffic flow trying to contiue out along the A64. Trying to join the Inner Ring Road is a feat in itself!If the Link Road is the cause of this, I wonder if this result was forseen and even how the problems caused are to be resolved!

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Wed 03 Dec, 2008 8:23 am

chameleon wrote: This is the one which joins South Accommodation Road with the M1 at the Pontefract Lane junction is it not?Said to join with the Inner Ring Road to complete the ring - the route from the A64 must be from the Woodpecker (Burmantofts Street) junction and through the mriad of traffic lights towards the centre and down Marsh Lane to South Accommodation Road perhaps?If this is so, it is very popular, from 4.00pm traffic sits almost stationary from the Woodpecker slip road back down the Inner Ring Road back to the tunnel and further with the effects on traffic movement and stagnation of the traffic flow trying to contiue out along the A64. Trying to join the Inner Ring Road is a feat in itself!If the Link Road is the cause of this, I wonder if this result was forseen and even how the problems caused are to be resolved! "Is it not"?You ask? Oh fountain of all knowledge can It be true you are unsure? (just kidding)Actually If you come off at the AI-MI Ponte Lane link and head for SE Leeds as the sign says you can run into the new section of inner ring road (the flyover) and straight back out of Leeds again so I suppose it gives a second major route in and out of Leeds to the M1-A1.But the sign in the YEP picture clearly says A63 which is the Selby Road.Best to go 'ave a look but we're a bit snowed in!!!

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Wed 03 Dec, 2008 8:35 am

Found a website that covers it. Can't bring up the plan because it wants the latest edition of a programme to read it (tedious stuff I find this).However it rants on about the road going through "Copperfields College playing fields" which most people won't know "Xgreen school" I asume and speaks of Ponte Lane but not directly.If only someone who writes this stuff could write"The new link road which links the inner ring road near the new flyover at south accommodation road, along the route of Pontefract Lane to the closed off juntion of the M1-A1 with Pontefract Lane has opened"Easy eh?

Si · Post by Si » Wed 03 Dec, 2008 9:22 am

Jeeeeez, Parksider! How are you supposed to digest that lot!!!It reminds me of a friend who got lost driving in a strange town. He stopped for directions, and was told, "Left at the roundabout, and then turn right where the green fence used to be."

sundowner · Post by **sundowner** » Wed 03 Dec, 2008 10:01 am

Si wrote: Jeeeeez, Parksider! How are you supposed to digest that lot!!!It reminds me of a friend who got lost driving in a strange town. He stopped for directions, and was told, "Left at the roundabout, and then turn right where the green fence used to be." What about the guy who asked directions to a place and a local said go down the road and turn left .Then he said no go right then he said go foward.No he said you cant get where you want to be from here.

Post by **tyke bhoy** » Wed 03 Dec, 2008 11:21 am

The confusion lies in two major road programmes that both started just over 2 years ago and one of which is now complete and the other rapidly approaching completion due this month.The ring is completed by Leeds Inner Ring Road (stage)7 which supposedly completes the inner ring road by linking LIRR6 (the Woodpecker to South Accommodation Road via Marsh Lane section) to the M621 by means of the John Smeaton viaduct and refurbishments to Junction 4 of the M621. From Junction 4 of the M621 you can then travel South West to Junction 2 (Elland Road) and then join Ingram Road Distributor to the Gyratory and completing the loop via the A58/A58(M)/A64(M) back to the Woodpecker junction. Courtesy of driving on the left the reverse of this loop in an anti-clockwise direction is shorter and easier.LCC's web page for LIRR7http://www.leeds.gov.uk/Transport_and_streets/ ... 468f065The East Leeds Link Road, which will have a HOV lane for much of its route, runs from South Accommodation Road mainly on what was/is Pontefract Lane through Cross Green to the soon to be eventually opened M1 Junction 45 which I guess is Swillington. LCC's web page for ELLRhttp://www.leeds.gov.uk/Environment_and_planni ... xStrangely yes the ELLR is designated the A63 which means the section from Osmondthorpe Lane past Temple Newsam to Halton is no longer the A63 (also the bit beefore that is also the A64) but must mean the A63 is now carried on Junction 45 to Junction 46 of the M1.http://www.cbrd.co.uk/futures/scheme.php?id=3Mysterious diversions of trunk roads are not unusual in Leeds as it has puzzled me for years why Hunslet Distributor has also been signposted the A61 which also presumably meant that the M621 from Tunstall Road (Junction5) and now Junction 4 to Junction 7 of Stourton was also the A61.Here is the url for LCC's PDF showing the South East of Leeds covering both schemes<http://www.leeds.gov.uk/files/Internet2 ... _iw(1).pdf> It doesn't want to hyperlink so copy an paste it into your browser address bar.

Reginal Perrin · Post by **Reginal Perrin** » Wed 03 Dec, 2008 2:39 pm

Sorry Parksider, I understood the blurb, maybe because I know the area pretty well.The new link road should take a lot of pressure off the southbound A1/M1 junction at Rothwell so freeing up traffice coming from Rothwell / John O Gaunts. The bottleneck lights under the M621 in Stourton should also be a bit better.I do wonder though if they are planning to upgrade Pontefract Lane fromt he junction towards Swillington as this narrows to a single track motion sensor traffic light and used to be a bugger at rush hour.

Reginal Perrin · Post by **Reginal Perrin** » Wed 03 Dec, 2008 3:01 pm

Interesting to see who will be allowed in the 2+ Lane:cars or vans with two or more occupants (including taxis and private hire vehicles with two or more occupants) buses / coaches pedal cycles / motorcycles emergency vehicles all goods vehicles with two or more occupants all goods vehicles 7.5T or over with one or more occupant I'm glad taxis have not been given their usual gold plated treatment but wonder why HGV's are allowed in it? Also "one or more occupant?" What is the alternative? An unnoccupied vihicle?

Post by **tyke bhoy** » Wed 03 Dec, 2008 3:42 pm

I suspect the single occupancy HGVs are in anticipation of a large number of them visiting the enlarged industrial estate envisaged for either side of the corridor. You wouldn't want an HGV trying to turn left at a roundabout from the outside lane ( assuming the inside lane is the HOV) or right if the outside lane is the HOV. The "neutral zone" required at each junction to allow HGV's to get in lane would virtually wipe out any expanse of HOV lane and totally nulify any perceived benefits of its existence.