Green LCT Buses

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Sun 30 Mar, 2008 6:51 pm

BLAKEY wrote: amber wrote: Hi Blakey are you Chris Y****** if you are look at my profile and guess who I am Hello Amber - no offence intended I assure you, but you have got me baffled so far - yes its me - in a few days if I haven't worked out the answer please E Mail and let me know.Best Wishes for now anyway !! After a bit of head scratching - would George M**** be anywhere near ?? - just working on the absence of any mention of Bramley or Headingley in tyour "CV."

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 30 Mar, 2008 9:16 pm

BLAKEY wrote: Geordie-exile wrote: If you had to get an eightpenny ticket the conductor did two fours by pressing down harder on the machine mechanism. Oh yes - the dreadful "Ultimate" machines (well, I thought they were dreadful). You had to acquire the knack of issuing "doubles" in order to do it efficiently. There was a small button below the trigger - to issue a "double" you had to press the button firmly in with any old spare finger and this allowed the trigger to travel twice the distance and issue two tickets. Perhaps passengers did not notice, but this operation also obliterated the serial number and fare stage number of the second ticket, thereby confirming that the longer ticket was not two singles. To return to my criticism of the machines and their "stone age" tickets, the enormous cost of printing and storing the bulk tickets and the complicated system for conductors to draw fresh stocks don't bear thinking about !! Are these http://www.skylineaviation.co.uk/buses/Tickets.htmlthe type of tickets you are talking about?The other type which were on flimsy paper and printed by the machine were constantly jamming in the machine.In the sixties, when one man operation first came in, the jamming of these tickets, plus the change machine which wouldn't issue change unless banged by the driver caused me to be late for work more often than not, and eventually a formal warning about time keeping - I bought a car!

amber · Post by **amber** » Sun 30 Mar, 2008 11:59 pm

BLAKEY wrote: amber wrote: Hi Blakey are you Chris Y****** if you are look at my profile and guess who I am Hello Amber - no offence intended I assure you, but you have got me baffled so far - yes its me - in a few days if I haven't worked out the answer please E Mail and let me know.Best Wishes for now anyway !! Sov S/I. Midd S/I. Mini Bus Manager. TRG manager. Name that man.

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Mon 31 Mar, 2008 12:17 am

amber wrote: Sov S/I. Midd S/I. Mini Bus Manager. TRG manager. Name that man. Hi there - not cheating I promise - I WAS just about to ask if minibuses figured in the conundrum - so will the REAL GEOFF P****R please stand up !!

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Wed 04 Jun, 2008 9:36 pm

I seem to remember that some of the LCT buses in the fifties carried plaques saying that they had served in London in the Blitz, anyone else remember these?

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Thu 05 Jun, 2008 12:07 am

[/quote Trojan]Are these http://www.skylineaviation.co.uk/buses/Tickets.htmlthe type of tickets you are talking about?The other type which were on flimsy paper and printed by the machine were constantly jamming in the machine.In the sixties, when one man operation first came in, the jamming of these tickets, plus the change machine which wouldn't issue change unless banged by the driver caused me to be late for work more often than not, and eventually a formal warning about time keeping - I bought a car! The olly tickets that are square and are from Brighton look like the ones we had for years.In later years we got tickets for the week you punched about 10 times.Then metro cards you flashed at the driver.

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Thu 05 Jun, 2008 12:17 am

TROJAN WROTE :-"Are these http://www.skylineaviation.co.uk/buses/Tickets.htmlthe type of tickets you are talking about?The other type which were on flimsy paper and printed by the machine were constantly jamming in the machine.In the sixties, when one man operation first came in, the jamming of these tickets, plus the change machine which wouldn't issue change unless banged by the driver caused me to be late for work more often than not, and eventually a formal warning about time keeping - I bought a car! "Please excuse me Trojan for not answering your March 30 question - I must have missed this. The tickets in use on One Man and crew buses until at least the mid 1970s were the "Ultimate" rolls. They weren't actually printed by the machine - simply that the machine stamped the stage boarded on the pre-orinted tickets. Jams were ridiculous and frequent - and inevitable as the large one man Solomatic machines were SUPPOSED to use cinema style concertina packs. However to save carrying two enormous and expensive stocks of pre-printed tickets LCT decided to use the heavy rolls from the conductors' Ultimate machines and the nightmare result we all know about !!The change giving machines were, per se, excellent but two things could cause a column to jam, either a coin of the wromg denomination/size in a column, or a bent or forged or thick/thin foreign coin of the right diameter otherwise. As you say, the jamming tickets, the frequent coin blockages and last but by no means least the woefully inadequate time allowances brought the early busy One Man routes to near collapse, and many a driver likewise !!

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Thu 05 Jun, 2008 12:24 am

Trojan wrote: I seem to remember that some of the LCT buses in the fifties carried plaques saying that they had served in London in the Blitz, anyone else remember these? Yes indeed, a large batch of Leeds double deckers were lent to London in 1940/1 to help in the Blitz. There were five Leyland Titans and twenty AEC Regents. They operated out of several London garages. Here is a picture of AEC Regent number 40 in Liverpool Street while working out of Hammersmith Garage on route 11 - note the masked headlamps, and I imagine the bus had only just arrived in London as it had not been fitted with the London Transport round emblem on the radiator nor their name in the top line of the destination display.In early peacetime further buses of the same type were lent to London where a critical shortage persisted due to war damage and maintenance difficulties among other things.

Uno Hoo · Post by **Uno Hoo** » Sat 21 Jun, 2008 5:00 pm

Feel sure that some of the ex-LCT staff here will know the answer to this: A couple of issues ago "Ledgard Chat" carried a photo of Troydale where a Ledgard ex-LT Daimler is leaving the terminus for Calverley. Also in the picture is an LCT Titan with its front blind set for route 65, but with Troydale as its destination. I don't remember seeing a 65 bus in these circumstances, so what would have brought 322 there? I imagine it was probably a works service, but Jim Soper's superb Leeds City Transport Vol. 4 doesn't enlighten me despite its comprehensive listings of school and works services.Thanks in advance. UH.

Chrism · Post by **Chrism** » Sat 21 Jun, 2008 6:42 pm

The only ones I can remember are the 49 that ran from Hyde Park corner to Farnley. I remember that cos I used to get it to the Rollerena and to me grans. And the 40, I have no idea where it came from but it took me to school (Benjamin Gott High) from outside the chippy on Armley Road (near Mike's Carpets if it's still there).