Family History in Leeds

boffley · Post by **boffley** » Fri 30 May, 2008 12:10 am

hello could anyone help i am looking for john william kirby he would be 18 or 19 in 1891 could anyone with an 1891 census look him up for me,i would appreciate details of him and any family members ,all i know about him is he was a basket maker in 1912 when he got married age 40.he was also blind from 9 years old,many thanks in advance,b kirby

Post by **cnosni** » Fri 30 May, 2008 5:56 pm

boffley wrote: hello could anyone help i am looking for john william kirby he would be 18 or 19 in 1891 could anyone with an 1891 census look him up for me,i would appreciate details of him and any family members ,all i know about him is he was a basket maker in 1912 when he got married age 40.he was also blind from 9 years old,many thanks in advance,b kirby Hello Boffley,where was John born?

boffley · Post by **boffley** » Fri 30 May, 2008 7:30 pm

we dont know his father was from weighton which we think is market weighton near york or hunslet his father was called john thomas his mother was mary his sister annie elizabeth was 2 years older than him thats all we know thanks b kirby

Post by **cnosni** » Mon 02 Jun, 2008 3:03 pm

boffley wrote: hello could anyone help i am looking for john william kirby he would be 18 or 19 in 1891 could anyone with an 1891 census look him up for me,i would appreciate details of him and any family members ,all i know about him is he was a basket maker in 1912 when he got married age 40.he was also blind from 9 years old,many thanks in advance,b kirby Hello Boffley.I think ive found the family in 1881 census,in Hunslet,ref Rg11 4486/116 living at 20 Thorne street Hunslet.John Thomas Kirby,Head,Marr,aged 35,Forgeman,born WeightonMary Kirby ,Wife, Marr,aged 35 ,born BeestonAnnie Elizabeth ,dtr, ,aged 12 ,born HunsletJno Wm ,son, ,aged 10 ,born HunsletSarah Ann ,dtr, ,aged 8 ,born HunsletJoseph ,son, ,aged 3 ,born HunsletBarabra ,dtr, ,aged 1 ,born HunsletThe 1871 census,4511/32 shows them at the same address,though Annie Elizabeth is shown as Hannah.John Thomas is described as Forgeman Puddler born Ripon.I can find no trace of any of these people in the 1891 or 1901 census .There is apossible marriage for John Thomas at Leeds Parish Church 1866,to a Mary LongstaffKIRBY John T LONGSTAFF Mary St Peter, Leeds.registered Leeds july-sept 1866 9b 556 .To confirm that this is the correct marriage then its a good idea to order the birth certificate of Barbara aged 1 in the 1881 census.There is a birth registered oct- dec 1879 Hunslet 9b 321.Im sure this is the correct birth registration and it will give the maiden name of the mother.There is a Mary Longstaff born Beeston circa 1846 in the 1861 census,but no sign in the 1851 census.However if you find the details of Barbaras birth certificate match with the marriage in 1866 then ordering the certificate of marriage should reveal the names of both Johns and Marys father.Any more help then let me know.regards,Chris

Post by **cnosni** » Mon 02 Jun, 2008 3:54 pm

Hello again BoffleyI think ive found John Thomas kirby in the 1861 census,and hes not from Weighton,but WEETON,near Harewood.He appears in the 1861 census in ,Leeds South,3370/55,7 John Yard,living with a brother,his remarried mother,step father and half siblings:-Aaron Raine,Head,Marr,aged 40,Gas Maker ,born BurnistonAnn Raine ,wife ,Marr,aged 47 ,born RawcliffeMark Wm Parkinson KIRBY,step son,aged 17,Grinder at Iron Foundry ,born LeedsJohn Thomas KIRBY ,step son,aged 15,Puddler at Iron Forge,born WeetonThen half siblings:-Sarah Elizabeth RAINE,dtr,aged 13 ,born RiponJohn Aaron RAINE ,son,aged 8 ,born NorthallertonMary Jane RAINE ,dtr ,aged 6 ,born LeedsNancy Ruth RAINE ,dtr, aged 4 ,born Leeds.This family group appear in the 1851 census at Appleton Wiske,2377/40.There is another sibling for John Thomas,Elena Kirby aged 12,born Burtney ?Lancs.In the 1851 census John Thomas is referred to as just Thomas,his brother referred to as William and his half sister Sarah Elizabeth as just Elizabeth.Ordering the birth certificate of Mark William Parkinson Kirby registered Leeds (Southeast Leeds) in 1843 from the Leeds registry office will give you the name of his and therefore John Thomas'father and the mothers maiden name (which i suspect could be Parkinson)

Lilysmum · Post by **Lilysmum** » Mon 02 Jun, 2008 5:08 pm

I have hit a brick wall with my family history and it's doing my head in! My GG Grandfather Moses Wilkinson Mann born Leeds North in 1852 shows up on all the relevant cencuses up to 1901 living in the Burmantofts area(he died in1910) except the 1871,I'm now wondering if he may have been in the army at this time or even worse in prison? Can anyone shed any light on how I could find out,and fill in the gap.I would be most grateful for any help on this.

uncle michael · Post by **uncle michael** » Mon 02 Jun, 2008 9:39 pm

Anyone help please? Looking for my grandmothers birth. She was born Frances Alice Smith (circa 1881). Married William Henry White at Hunslet at 05/03/1904. Frances died 05/10/1957 at Spenborough (Yorkshire) Thanks Michael

boffley · Post by **boffley** » Tue 03 Jun, 2008 4:38 pm

re kirby.... thankyou so much this is great,we are going down town on wednesday to get the birth certificate for barbra and we have also found mark so we are going to get his too again many thanks b kirby

Post by **cnosni** » Tue 03 Jun, 2008 6:33 pm

uncle michael wrote: Anyone help please? Looking for my grandmothers birth. She was born Frances Alice Smith (circa 1881). Married William Henry White at Hunslet at 05/03/1904. Frances died 05/10/1957 at Spenborough (Yorkshire) Thanks Michael Hello MichaelWhat were the names of Frances parents?and do you have her in any of the census?

Post by **cnosni** » Tue 03 Jun, 2008 6:35 pm

Lilysmum wrote: I have hit a brick wall with my family history and it's doing my head in! My GG Grandfather Moses Wilkinson Mann born Leeds North in 1852 shows up on all the relevant cencuses up to 1901 living in the Burmantofts area(he died in1910) except the 1871,I'm now wondering if he may have been in the army at this time or even worse in prison? Can anyone shed any light on how I could find out,and fill in the gap.I would be most grateful for any help on this. Well you may have aproblem here because i have some relaives who should also have been in Burmantofts in 1871 and i cant find them either.Perhaps theres some sections missing.Have you tried looking for his parents in the 1871 census?