Kirkstall Lites March 08.

Si · Post by Si » Mon 17 Mar, 2008 12:31 pm

Dunno, but I noticed it was up for let a few weeks ago. Will have a decko tonight.

Chrism · Post by **Chrism** » Mon 17 Mar, 2008 1:21 pm

Why do all these pubs go under? And more so, why do the breweries let them? It's not as if it's in the middle of nowhere. I too remember when it was very busy every night, and the downstairs bar was open too.

wiggy · Post by **wiggy** » Mon 17 Mar, 2008 2:39 pm

Chrism wrote: Why do all these pubs go under? And more so, why do the breweries let them? It's not as if it's in the middle of nowhere. I too remember when it was very busy every night, and the downstairs bar was open too. cos' people like a smoke with their pint and they can buy beer SERIOUSLY cheaper at a supermarket.why dosn't the government put up the prices in supermarkets and drop them down in pubs?? because they want rid of the pubs!!! it has to be,it's the only conceivable answer.a tradition that has lasted for thousands of years,along with tens of thousands of jobs,killed off in the stroke of a pen.....eee bye eck,but it takes me back to 1984...only they are doing it a little more subtly this time.give it a couple more years and we can move the lost pubs thread into the things you don't see anymore thread.

Si · Post by Si » Mon 17 Mar, 2008 2:54 pm

You're ranting again, Wiggy....nurse?...the screens...Seriously, I think you're right. Increasing the booze price in supermarkets and lowering it in pubs would certainly help in the case of so-called binge-drinking. I wonder if government ministers ever talk to each other? They want to lower drink-related crime by increasing the price. They want to lower cannabis-related crime by lowering the price (by re-classifying.) Right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing?

munki · Post by **munki** » Mon 17 Mar, 2008 3:16 pm

Possibly a bit of a rant from Wiggy, but also chillingly plausible... Seems like 'they' only want us to drink & smoke in front of the telly at home with dinner on our knees, so that we can be more effectively advertised to. Does Blair&Brown's admiration of Baroness Thatcher extend to supporting her 'There is no such thing as society, there is only the individual' rant?I hope not, but sometimes I think so.Kirkstall Lites wasn't the prettiest of sites, but CJ's was a decent little music venue.

Si · Post by Si » Mon 17 Mar, 2008 3:24 pm

Do you know, I'm beginning to get more and more convinced by your pilotlight musings, Munki......and we're supposed to get more "right-wing" as we get older!

Chrism · Post by **Chrism** » Mon 17 Mar, 2008 4:18 pm

wiggy wrote: Chrism wrote: Why do all these pubs go under? And more so, why do the breweries let them? It's not as if it's in the middle of nowhere. I too remember when it was very busy every night, and the downstairs bar was open too. cos' people like a smoke with their pint and they can buy beer SERIOUSLY cheaper at a supermarket.why dosn't the government put up the prices in supermarkets and drop them down in pubs?? because they want rid of the pubs!!! it has to be,it's the only conceivable answer.a tradition that has lasted for thousands of years,along with tens of thousands of jobs,killed off in the stroke of a pen.....eee bye eck,but it takes me back to 1984...only they are doing it a little more subtly this time.give it a couple more years and we can move the lost pubs thread into the things you don't see anymore thread. But then wouldn't the peeps who get p155ed at home, on cheap booze, go to the pub and get p155ed on cheap booze? Why do the goverment want rid of something that generates millions of pounds a year for them?

Reginal Perrin · Post by **Reginal Perrin** » Mon 17 Mar, 2008 4:38 pm

Chrism wrote: wiggy wrote: Chrism wrote: Why do all these pubs go under? And more so, why do the breweries let them? It's not as if it's in the middle of nowhere. I too remember when it was very busy every night, and the downstairs bar was open too. cos' people like a smoke with their pint and they can buy beer SERIOUSLY cheaper at a supermarket.why dosn't the government put up the prices in supermarkets and drop them down in pubs?? because they want rid of the pubs!!! it has to be,it's the only conceivable answer.a tradition that has lasted for thousands of years,along with tens of thousands of jobs,killed off in the stroke of a pen.....eee bye eck,but it takes me back to 1984...only they are doing it a little more subtly this time.give it a couple more years and we can move the lost pubs thread into the things you don't see anymore thread. But then wouldn't the peeps who get p155ed at home, on cheap booze, go to the pub and get p155ed on cheap booze? Why do the goverment want rid of something that generates millions of pounds a year for them? But surely the majority of people who like a drink don't get "[edited for content]". I certainly don't (well not very often). I do like to go to the pub but you are talking a £10 an hour habit now and it is too expensive when tyou can get 20 bottle sof beer for about £8 and drinkable wine for £4 a bottle.Communities are losing something. Only die hards still spend large chunks of time in the pub and this can only be of detriment to their families.

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Mon 17 Mar, 2008 9:11 pm

drapesy wrote: Final shot from the Beer garden. Joking aside, and this was far from being a favourite pub, its still a shame to see any pub in this state. I remember being in here in the 1990's when it was absolutely heaving - you could hardly get served at the bar! With the nearby George IV and a W.M. club closing in the past few years you would think there was enough trade - obviously not. Funnily enough the landlord there in the 90's had come from another fantastically successful pub - The Travellers Rest at Cross Gates. It might not seem plausible now, but "The Travs" used to turn people away on Friday and Sunday nights with people coming from as far away as York and Selby for a night out - and this when pubs closed at 11pm! During the summer the carpark would also be full to overflowing.The problem was the usual one - dodgy pubs nearby closed, the "wrong" clientel transferred in and the regulars moved out. And so the pub dies. I've seen that happen so many times it's untrue.And now we also have the smoking ban to contend with as well as supermarkets doing a case of beer for the price of 3 or 4 pints in the pub. And don't forget the breweries don't own the pubs anymore in most cases (something else to thanks Maggie for) - the breweries are just as happy selling to the supermarkets as they are to the pub owning companies and leaseholders.

ackers72 · Post by **ackers72** » Mon 17 Mar, 2008 9:45 pm

How long has the lights been shut??I wonder if they will flatten it like everything else on that corner for more flats!!!!