True Identity of a fallen soldier in the Great War Part - 10

Dalehelms · Post by **Dalehelms** » Sun 27 Jul, 2014 10:04 pm

I love stories with happy endings! Thank you so much for sharing it on SL. It has been a great read.

kango · Post by **kango** » Sun 27 Jul, 2014 10:08 pm

What a wonderful ending Chris!This proves , to my mind at least, that the human interest side of things can run along side the hard facts and recorded history of Leeds where relevant, which is all that I was advocating in the "new site" thread.Full marks for perseverance and for putting right an historical record.Look forward to the broadcast.

Omegaman · Post by **Omegaman** » Mon 28 Jul, 2014 2:09 am

Chris,Outstanding work and result. Well done!!Looking forward to seeing the news on 1st August.

Loiner in Cyprus · Post by **Loiner in Cyprus** » Mon 28 Jul, 2014 12:20 pm

Well done. I found this thread to be a truly interesting and riveting read. I don't usually watch ITN News, but I shall on Friday.

Steve Jones · Post by **Steve Jones** » Mon 28 Jul, 2014 1:49 pm

This has been a fascinating thread chris as well as an excellent guide for people interested in family history on how to use resources.i shall watch the news item with interest,thanks for alerting us.

Post by **cnosni** » Mon 28 Jul, 2014 1:54 pm

Many thanks everyone.Its not something that i had ever tackled before.Its one thing doing family history and working things out or convincing fellow researchers about your conclusions but its another thing trying to convince an official body such as the CWGC.To be honest, when a sent the last submission, i knew it would do the trick. Its like when a football player shoots for goal and they know its going in.Its all busy still as ITN have asked me to write a short article for their website, the Duke of Wellingtons Museum want a portfolio of the evidence for their records and the Y.E.P have now got wind of it.So maybe there is more to come, i have tinkered with the idea of doing a short story about Robert, his brother James who was injured in action then later taken P.O.W in 1917 and forced to work down a salt mine somewhere in Prussia (awaiting Red Cross records to come online) and then on the opposite side of the same street , Moorhouse Terrace,where my grandfather (who eventually married Maggie Hoolan) and his brother James (known as Joe for some reason) lived who both joined the army. my grandfather being shot in the knee whilst with the second Leeds Pals on the Somme and then going into the Army Service Corps in Palestine where he was injured again.The four lads must have known each other as the Hoolan boys lived with their maternal aunt at number 4 Moorhouse Terrace and my grandfathers family lived at number 11.Thats a simple outline but there is a lot more to it especially when you add the personal details of losing parents, working class hardship and eventual romance and marriage.

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Mon 28 Jul, 2014 3:18 pm

This is the link to part 8 of this research http://www.secretleeds.co.uk/forum/Mess ... eadID=5387 which has some related maps. In view of the death of George Ellison (see this thread http://www.secretleeds.com/forum/Messag ... eadID=2722) I thought I would post this 1908 map from the Old-Maps UK website that shows Edmund Street, Sloe Street and Acorn Street. As they are not that far away from each other I wonder if George and Robert ever met? We may of course never know.I hope cnosni that this post is welcome and is not thought to be intrusive in your poignant research.

Post by **cnosni** » Wed 30 Jul, 2014 12:49 am

Leodian wrote: This is the link to part 8 of this research http://www.secretleeds.co.uk/forum/Mess ... eadID=5387 which has some related maps. In view of the death of George Ellison (see this thread http://www.secretleeds.com/forum/Messag ... eadID=2722) I thought I would post this 1908 map from the Old-Maps UK website that shows Edmund Street, Sloe Street and Acorn Street. As they are not that far away from each other I wonder if George and Robert ever met? We may of course never know.I hope cnosni that this post is welcome and is not thought to be intrusive in your poignant research. No not at all Leo, more than happy for any other input.

tilly · Post by **tilly** » Thu 31 Jul, 2014 5:21 am

Hi cnosni just a thought i wonder if there is a memorial plaque in the old St Patrick's Church for the 1914/1918 war dead.If so could your relative be on it, this church would have been very important to the Irish immigrants in this area.In fact i think it would have been a place your relative would have gone before setting out to go to war.If you have gone down this path in your search sorry to bring it up.Did you know that the last official British soldier killed before the cease fire in 1918 was from the York Road area i bet you did. There is an old saying dont try to teach your granny how to suck eggs well done with your quest and what a great outcome.

Post by **cnosni** » Thu 31 Jul, 2014 11:44 am

tilly wrote: Hi cnosni just a thought i wonder if there is a memorial plaque in the old St Patrick's Church for the 1914/1918 war dead.If so could your relative be on it, this church would have been very important to the Irish immigrants in this area.In fact i think it would have been a place your relative would have gone before setting out to go to war.If you have gone down this path in your search sorry to bring it up.Did you know that the last official British soldier killed before the cease fire in 1918 was from the York Road area i bet you did. There is an old saying dont try to teach your granny how to suck eggs well done with your quest and what a great outcome. Hi TillyNo. please, dont anyone think i know about everything, anything is welcome.The matter of George Ellison from York Road, the last official British soldier killed before the cease fire in 1918,was mentioned by Leodian a couple of posts before this one where he provides a map to compare George Ellison's address to 7 Sloe Street.He gas been covered in another thread on here.I visited his grave at St Symphorien Cemetery in April this year, as well as those of Edward Dease (first VC of WW1) and George Lawrence Price, the last commonwealth soldier to be killed at approx 10:59 on 11th November 1918 which are also at the same cemetery.I did know about the memorial plaque in St Pats and i did get into the old church and photographed Roberts name on the memorial, my grandmother had paid to have his name put on, i mention it here in part 2 with accompanying photo of the inscription-http://www.secretleeds.com/forum/Messag ... dID=5359It would be good to get in there again and try to note all the names so they can be placed on the Yorkshire Indexers website as they are collating as many names as possible from the various war memorials around.BTW anyone wishing to buy a British Legion "Lights Out" candle from M&S to mark the beginning of the war pleas note they are running low.Also dont forget you can see the headstone of Robert Hoolan being put into place on the Ten o clock News tomorrow, Friday 1st August.