Any news on when the new Secret Leeds website is to come active.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 8:03 pm

raveydavey wrote: I can't help but feel somehow responsible for this sudden FB v SL discussion, when all I did was respond to a post about people using FB. That's ok Ravey.It wasn't really your fault, don't worry about it. I just shake my head how a sizeable portion of Secret Leeds forum members have now become a bunch of pretending amateurs, posting a mish mash of inane photos on a hostile website the owner thinks the said users are idiots This kind of thing has happened before though.I posted a link to a vast archive collection of old Leeds photos.One person slagged the guy off who owned the photos for some reason, and just as has happened here everyone else joined in with the slagging off and criticism. The guy who owned the photos found out about all these negative comments on this forum, he read them, and took the whole collection of photos off line because of it

Post by **cnosni** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 8:17 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: cnosni wrote: What are the constraints? Non expert - lurker. I realise what a Lurker is Phil, however, if someone is a lurker on SL and feels somehow intimidated about posting something then surely they would be the same on the FB page, as i have experienced first hand hostility from a group of people on there (who i hasten to add were all friends on FB outside SL2) to a degree that would not have been reached on here.If people do feel more comfortable posting on FB SL2 because they somehow feel intimidated by posting on SL then this is a sad indictment of not just the way the site is or isnt user friendly but also about the contributors themselves, in other words they must appear hostile/condescending/haughty.I dont think this is the case personally,if it is though, the only way would be for regular contributors to either stop contributing or to close the site down.I would like to think that those lurkers dont subscribe to this and that if they can take the time to go on FB and discuss matters regarding Secret Leeds then they should be able to do so on the original site.Any Lurkers out there, what do you think?

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 8:26 pm

cnosni wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: cnosni wrote: What are the constraints? Non expert - lurker. as i have experienced first hand hostility from a group of people on there (who i hasten to add were all friends on FB outside SL2) to a degree that would not have been reached on here. I don't really see hostility on the post you refer to, just everyone else disagreeing with your point of view really?? A passionate debate from both sides????https://www.facebook.com/groups/SecretL ... 12712/That particular debate was the only post ever to become passionate in over 2 years You were also admin and mod of that group, any posts you deemed unfit, unsuitable, or not for the good of the group you could easily have dealt with, edited, deleted, or flagged it up for attention Chris.

Carona · Post by **Carona** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 9:42 pm

I'd just like to add that members of SL2 are often directed to a Thread on this site re a certain subject due to the excellent depth of information given. I enjoy SL and SL2 and dip in and out of both sites every day. The Threads on this site are plentiful, I am still working my way through them!!Maybe folk just feel they can't add more info to this site because the topics have already been covered?

Post by **cnosni** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 10:18 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: cnosni wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: cnosni wrote: What are the constraints? Non expert - lurker. as i have experienced first hand hostility from a group of people on there (who i hasten to add were all friends on FB outside SL2) to a degree that would not have been reached on here. I don't really see hostility on the post you refer to, just everyone else disagreeing with your point of view really?? A passionate debate from both sides????https://www.facebook.com/groups/SecretL ... 12712/That particular debate was the only post ever to become passionate in over 2 years You were also admin and mod of that group, any posts you deemed unfit, unsuitable, or not for the good of the group you could easily have dealt with, edited, deleted, or flagged it up for attention Chris. Thats the point though Phil, i had the ability but didnt use it as it would have been a sure sign that freedom of expression would be surpressed, doing such a thing i believe would undermine the trust and impartiality that one should be able to have in an admin.What was particular to this instance, irrelevant of those involved, was that someone (me) who had the differing opinion was viewed as being "Naive" and having "youth being wasted on the young" by the others involved, that is something that would never occur on here because the contributors are open minded to debate,honest discussion and other peoples points of view without having to result to belittling them.There is an unwritten sense of decorum on SL, long may it continue

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 10:21 pm

cnosni wrote: There is an unwritten sense of decorum on SL, long may it continue Until someone wants to smash forum members brains in with a walking stick of course I think we forgot that little episode, and the rest

Post by **cnosni** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 10:26 pm

Carona wrote: I'd just like to add that members of SL2 are often directed to a Thread on this site re a certain subject due to the excellent depth of information given. I enjoy SL and SL2 and dip in and out of both sites every day. The Threads on this site are plentiful, I am still working my way through them!!Maybe folk just feel they can't add more info to this site because the topics have already been covered? Well thats a strong possibility Carona in that topics may have already been covered but i would be interested if there were any lurkers who are genuinely hesitant to post on the site, and if so, what can we all do as a collective to remedy this.Any re branding or relaunch of the site would be useless if "Lurkers" were being put off because of other members or the general atmosphere of the site.There was an instance a while ago where a new contributor started a thread and because no one joined in they thought that they were being ignored.Im sure that wasnt the case, it would have probably have been a matter of no one else feeling teh need or interest in the subject of the thread.

Post by **cnosni** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 10:34 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: cnosni wrote: There is an unwritten sense of decorum on SL, long may it continue Until someone wants to smash forum members brains in with a walking stick of course I think we forgot that little episode, and the rest No, no one has forgot, i remember all the episodes and those who were involved.Sticks was banned by the owner of the site as he had begun to start threatening other people.Action taken against a tiny handful of over 16000 users in 7 years is pretty good going in anyones book.It doesnt take away the fact that the vast majority of SL users are of a tolerant good humoured nature and i find it strange that anyone would be put off to contributing to SL because they might think they would get pounced on.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 10:40 pm

cnosni wrote: i find it strange that anyone would be put off to contributing to SL because they might think they would get pounced on. I've already tried to answer that question here Chris.http://www.secretleeds.com/forum/Messag ... 5&#106688I know it to be true why people don't post here. I've also added an idea how to get them to post on this forum. And as a result, add to, and start new threads. One thing is for certain, It works for facebook and it's booming, but not here it's dying. We haven't got the answer when the new look website will be ready, we are unsure about that as yet. But one thing is for certain, that without it, and a different format. This forum is way past it's sell by date and has had it's day.

Post by **cnosni** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 10:56 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: cnosni wrote: i find it strange that anyone would be put off to contributing to SL because they might think they would get pounced on. I've already tried to answer that question here Chris.http://www.secretleeds.com/forum/Messag ... 5&#106688I know it to be true why people don't post here. I've also added an idea how to get them to post on this forum. And as a result, add to, and start new threads. One thing is for certain, It works for facebook and it's booming, but not here it's dying. We haven't got the answer when the new look website will be ready, we are unsure about that as yet. But one thing is for certain, that without it, and a different format. This forum is way past it's sell by date and has had it's day. Phil i saw the post and those are valid points and they are features that i would welcome and would aspire to have on SL.However if people are abstaining from posting on here because of the regular contributors then those contributors would either have to leave the site or the site would have to close.Its something that Duncan is going to have to address.But if it is some precieved hostility that is created by the regular contributors then no amount of updates to the site are going to negate that hostility.I personally think that there are 3 types of people, those who are SL only, FB SL2 only and those who do both, its the ratio of these 3 types that may eventually determine what happens with SL.