Any news on when the new Secret Leeds website is to come active.

Mark S · Post by **Mark S** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 3:21 pm

one of the reasons i don't post much on any forum is that criticism and offence are seen when there was none intended.

Post by **cnosni** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 3:38 pm

Carona wrote: Mark S wrote: I use Secret Leeds and FB i find they are both good places to get knowledge of Leeds past and present.As has been said before Secret Leeds is the place i come for more in depth history of Leeds i see you guys as the 'professionals' who can give me times dates places and the history of places in Leeds but you are limited in number and to new people the site is not so user friendly.But FB the enthusiastic 'amateurs' seem to tell me more about the nitty gritty of somewhere i might of been to in Leeds. As they work, worked live or lived there in some cases I tend to post my Pics on there mainly because of the numbers of users and i get really interesting comments and PMS from people. Although saying all that i still tell people about this site and that this is a whole lot better than FB and there's not much you lot do not know. I joined SL2 via FB when this site hit problems and I was quite surprised at how few SL members actually followed on. I don't like FB for reasons already stated but I joined anyway as I still wanted to be a part of this site and its members and have to say I was surprised and disappointed at how few from SL joined SL2.When the SL site hit problems I also "did my bit" and e-mailed a couple of places more or less begging them to keep the SL site alive as it holds so much educational value re Leeds. We "amateurs" on SL2 may not be as professional as most on SL but I am still learning about my home city and that is the most important thing. If it weren't for Phill starting up the SL2 site I would have lost touch with this site long ago. Good points well made Carona.Many of the regular contributors on SL tend to be, shall we say, on the older side and as such are not or do not wish to be on Facebook for many different reasons, many of those reasons are more than valid.I for one do not have a problem with this, its their perogative after all.I think it would also be fair to say that many of those on SL2 dont contribute to SL, and i find that equally as disappointing.The issue with SL is that we need more peope to contribute, that is the key to the site thriving and i along with the regular contributors would welcome those who "view" on an ad hoc basis to be more active.The success of the FB SL2 site is that you recieve an email when a post/comment/picture has been made on the page, thus allowing you to see what has been going on. You get a poke in the ribs so to speak.With SL you dont get that unless you suscribe to a notification of a thread, and if a new thread comes along, well you wont know about it til you log on.The nature of SL being as it is means that perhaps some ne w threads may disappear from the active threads if you dont log on every day, and as a resulta perfectly good/ interesting new thread could be completely missed.That as pect needs to be addressed.As for the term "ameteurs", well i dont subscribe to that.We are all "ameteurs", its just that as SL is the older site then perhaps some of the long term contributors should be perhaps viewed as "veterans" IIRC SL2 was set up as somewhere to go when the site was down.I was in contact with Dunkie quite a lot when the issues with the site were happening, and i know that there were many people also helping to try and get the site back up and running by emailing the site, i get a all the SL enquiry emails as well as Dunkie, so i could see how many were "doing their bit".It was a big effort by many people to hilight the problems and i personally am grateful to all that did so.

Mark S · Post by **Mark S** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 3:49 pm

As for the term "ameteurs", well i dont subscribe to that.We are all "ameteurs", its just that as SL is the older site then perhaps some of the long term contributors should be perhaps viewed as "veterans" .Said so much better than i could of put it.Think i will stick to posting pics dont seem to put my foot in my mouth as much that way.Also take your point about the site, use it or loose it so as i think it would be a shame to loose it, i shall use it, or should i say involve my self with posts and post more on the site.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 3:53 pm

An active group page just like facebook groups wouldn't go amiss on this forum to keep it alive. The ability to post photos, links to news articles displaying photos, and videos of local topics keeps the f.b group frequently updated. There is still lots of research, map reading, and all the things that go on here.Any group wall posts that are interesting, or generate a lot of interaction, questions that need answering can be added to their own thread, or existing threads. That would kick start this forum back to life for starters. You would attract many new users here with that format. Many interesting topics are covered in the f.b group on the off chance of a random photo being posted from Leodis, or some other website of that nature. Many an interesting topic that this site looses out on by not using that format.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 5:04 pm

As it stands now the non posters, or ''lurkers'' don't post on this forum because they think they might not be expert enough, or know enough about a subject. They also think their post might not be interesting, or generate a good lengthy thread. I've heard this said by users many times. The term 'expert' has been mentioned on this very thread.If you take away those barriers like the facebook group does. Then you have a healthy and vibrant site where everyone feels free and happy to post without those constraints. It's why one group is busy, the other is dormant.

Mark S · Post by **Mark S** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 5:42 pm

As it stands now the non posters, or ''lurkers'' don't post on this forum because they think they might not be expert enough, or know enough about a subject. They also think their post might not be interesting, or generate a good lengthy thread. I've heard this said by users many times. The term 'expert' has been mentioned on this very thread.If you take away those barriers like the facebook group does. Then you have a healthy and vibrant site where everyone feels free and happy to post without those constraints. It's why one group is busy, the other is dormant. Spot on

Post by **cnosni** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 6:19 pm

What are the constraints?

Steve266 · Post by **Steve266** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 7:07 pm

A great deal of what you are saying is all news to meI came across this site as I was trying to research about the old groups of Leeds(Bands as you would say now) from the sixties and seventies and the pubs that used to carry live music.I must say i was disapointed that more has not been talked about but then again I suppose if you were not in groups or went out to see them it will be of no interestWho remmbers going to the Star and Garter to see the band of the week you played all week for not a lot but all the groups turned up to watch you and woe betied if you could not copy the top tunes exactlyProbably the best band on there were The Amazing Friendly Apple they were top musicians as most of them started in the 50'sBut if your going down the face book avenue taking inain photos on a piece of kit that should be used to talk on then you've lost me because as far as i'm concerned friends are people who you have known for a long time and you go down the pub with or thier house for a dinner party not someone you have no Idea who they areRant overSteve

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 7:12 pm

I can't help but feel somehow responsible for this sudden FB v SL discussion, when all I did was respond to a post about people using FB.People are free to post on whatever websites they choose, I just prefer not to use FB for various reasons, some of which have been commented on by others. I just can't help but feel that it's a shame that people might be posting interesting topics on there that might spark another 'Skulls' thread on the main site, which might get missed by some members with contributions to make.Lots of us did our bit to resurrect the site when it was abandoned by the previous keepers and it would be nice to see it return back to the glory days.That's my two pen'north and I'll leave it there.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 15 Jun, 2014 7:53 pm

cnosni wrote: What are the constraints? Non expert - lurker.