A grade 2 listed building for sale next to the Parish Church.

Post by **cnosni** » Fri 06 Jun, 2014 11:28 am

uncle mick wrote: Jogon wrote: Crowd of Favours risks taking out the Duck & Drake?D&D kept the faith / burned the candle for real ale etc, so, I've lost my train of thought there, goodnight. Crowd of Favours & the D&D are like chalk & cheese, personally I like them both but that's what we need more diversity if that's the correct word Agreed Mick, different crowds altogether. Younger people in the Crowd of Favours.Though not unwelcoming for all that. I like both and there is room for both.

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Fri 06 Jun, 2014 2:39 pm

uncle mick wrote: If you open up the heritage statements here http://tinyurl.com/q5qqhrj there is info regards who lived in them & their history etc I've read it now Mick thanks and it seems very clear that the report focuses on a large Georgian house at number one variously used domestically, for a tradesman and as a pub.The report also includes the Georgian cottages in it's plans and text but these are now demolished but for some of the back walls.Not sure I am being pedantic, but the description of the property as "Georgian workers cottages" is wholly wrong. The cottages were demolished. It's a larger Georgian property used as a house/public house/house to carry on a shoe trade. Anyone agree or has that been established already!!!?

tilly · Post by **tilly** » Fri 06 Jun, 2014 3:14 pm

The Parksider wrote: uncle mick wrote: If you open up the heritage statements here http://tinyurl.com/q5qqhrj there is info regards who lived in them & their history etc I've read it now Mick thanks and it seems very clear that the report focuses on a large Georgian house at number one variously used domestically, for a tradesman and as a pub.The report also includes the Georgian cottages in it's plans and text but these are now demolished but for some of the back walls.Not sure I am being pedantic, but the description of the property as "Georgian workers cottages" is wholly wrong. The cottages were demolished. It's a larger Georgian property used as a house/public house/house to carry on a shoe trade. Anyone agree or has that been established already!!!?You are right Parksider the cottages are no longer there just a gap were they once stood.

tilly · Post by **tilly** » Fri 06 Jun, 2014 3:18 pm

The Parksider wrote: LS1 wrote: The interesting thing about this building is that they are the last Georgian workers cottages in Leeds. Hello LS1 and all......As a working class monument it interests me and I have read many times it is "Georgian Workers Cottages". But it looks nothing like "cottages" and the idea it was an old pub seems more feasible.I am interested in Phils piccy of a row of old houses knocked down behind the existing grade 11 premises. Now they DO look like georgian cottages???Any definitive ideas? is there shome mishtake? You are right Parksider they are no longer there just a gap where they once stood.

uncle mick · Post by **uncle mick** » Fri 06 Jun, 2014 5:54 pm

[quotenick="The Parksider"] uncle mick wrote: If you open up the heritage statements here http://tinyurl.com/q5qqhrj there is info regards who lived in them & their history etc I've read it now Mick thanks and it seems very clear that the report focuses on a large Georgian house at number one variously used domestically, for a tradesman and as a pub.The report also includes the Georgian cottages in it's plans and text but these are now demolished but for some of the back walls.Not sure I am being pedantic, but the description of the property as "Georgian workers cottages" is wholly wrong. The cottages were demolished. It's a larger Georgian property used as a house/public house/house to carry on a shoe trade. Anyone agree or has that been established already!!!?I am not sure if the cottages were Georgian. Reading the article from 1878 that I posted earlier it says"The dwelling houses fronting Church Row have been recently rebuilt" ??????

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Fri 06 Jun, 2014 7:16 pm

Phill posted a photo from Leodis on 14 August 2011 at 20:54:35. That photo is dated 4 December 1963 and shows the building on Church Row was then used by 'Davisworth & Co.' I wonder if anyone knows what building the tall chimney in the rear of the photo was at, as it seems to be very close (unless it is an illusion and is further back than it seems).Hoping not to veer too much off topic but as some pubs in the area are named in this thread I wonder if anyone knows when the Brougham's Arms was renamed the Duck and Drake, as it is named the Brougham's Arms in a 1964/66 map that I've seen.

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Fri 06 Jun, 2014 8:32 pm

Leo thanksThat's vexed me for years. I've only ever known it as D&D, but I can recall as a very young 'un, going from the bus station to the markets and seeing kids outside a pub with "pop & crisps" (a pram as well I think), presumably whilst the parents were in the pub having a sesh.I also recall at that formative age (early / mid 60's at a guess) the smell of 2nd hand beer + fag smoke coming from within. I've a vague memory of Moons ? jewellers just up that road before the post office.And the big round red Edams at face height (to a little chive) in Lewis's Food Hall.Sorry I must end this nostalge-fest.Excellent thread by the way

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Fri 06 Jun, 2014 8:48 pm

Leodian wrote: Phill posted a photo from Leodis on 14 August 2011 at 20:54:35. That photo is dated 4 December 1963 and shows the building on Church Row was then used by 'Davisworth & Co.' I wonder if anyone knows what building the tall chimney in the rear of the photo was at, as it seems to be very close (unless it is an illusion and is further back than it seems).Hoping not to veer too much off topic but as some pubs in the area are named in this thread I wonder if anyone knows when the Brougham's Arms was renamed the Duck and Drake, as it is named the Brougham's Arms in a 1964/66 map that I've seen. Two buildings along High Court is the 'The Old Brewery'. (Built in 1868 and occupied by Whitbread and Co. Ltd Brewers and Bottlers, the building was purchased and redeveloped by YDG in 1989).Possibly the likely home of the chimney, although there isn't one present now. That said the chimney in Phill's pic looks like it might be even closer, although a quick scoot round on Street View doesn't throw up many clues?More on 'The Old Brewery' here: http://ydg.co.uk/theoldbrewery.php

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Fri 06 Jun, 2014 10:08 pm

Hi Jogon. I've also only known it as the Duck & Drake. I'm not a drinker and I think I've only ever been in it just once some years back. Hi raveydavey. Thanks for that information.

uncle mick · Post by **uncle mick** » Fri 06 Jun, 2014 11:21 pm

Copied from here http://www.duckndrake.co.uk/history.htmlThe pub has existed under several different names including THE HORSE & GROOM & THE BROUGHAM'S ARMS. During the second world war Broughams had a reputation for being a place where women would meet and entertain American GI’s. It wasn't until 1985 - while the pub was under the care of landlord Roy ‘Dusty’ Morley - that the name changed to The Duck & Drake. Though the present name is represented in the form of waterfowl it actually refers to the pastime of skimming stones on water called “ducks & drakes”