Kirkgate Market

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 18 May, 2014 1:12 am

The big high roof is the section that got burned down. I'd been in it many times. But like most Leeds people I struggle a bit to recall how it looked. It seemed so long ago now.

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Sun 18 May, 2014 10:41 am

Somewhere there's a good 1970's? bus shot of the side / exterior of the old lower end market painted green I think. Can't find it.Also, somewhere there's a plan / illustration of the old fish market noting the fountain.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 18 May, 2014 10:51 am

Waves magic wand

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Sun 18 May, 2014 1:05 pm

It's all fascinating stuff Phill. Thanks for it. The 1888 map in your post on 18-May-2014 00:05:53 interestingly shows there was a 'Calf & Pig Market' and a 'Hay & Straw Market'. There were also 4 public houses in a very small area to the top left, namely:- Red Lion P.H., Market Tavern P.H., St George's Stores P.H. and London Tavern P.H. (the 1891 map in the post on 15-May-2014 13:24:31 shows there was a Crown P.H. joined onto the Red Lion but it is not fully seen in the 1888 map). There was clearly a demand for drink then! The photo dated 1992 in your post of 18-May-2014 00:10:28 shows just how rubbish my memory of Leeds is! It's only 22 years ago but I have no recollection of the row of white fronted premises on the far side of George Street (?). I wonder when they were knocked down (probably just last week knowing my memory!).

somme1916 · Post by **somme1916** » Sun 18 May, 2014 2:07 pm

Leodian wrote: It's all fascinating stuff Phill. Thanks for it. The 1888 map in your post on 18-May-2014 00:05:53 interestingly shows there was a 'Calf & Pig Market' and a 'Hay & Straw Market'. There were also 4 public houses in a very small area to the top left, namely:- Red Lion P.H., Market Tavern P.H., St George's Stores P.H. and London Tavern P.H. (the 1891 map in the post on 15-May-2014 13:24:31 shows there was a Crown P.H. joined onto the Red Lion but it is not fully seen in the 1888 map). There was clearly a demand for drink then! The photo dated 1992 in your post of 18-May-2014 00:10:28 shows just how rubbish my memory of Leeds is! It's only 22 years ago but I have no recollection of the row of white fronted premises on the far side of George Street (?). I wonder when they were knocked down (probably just last week knowing my memory!). Thought same myself Leo.....funny how the mind plays tricks ! Just looking again at the aerial shot(1992) of the current lay out - it's no wonder,with all those flat roof structures,alcoves and recesses around the buildings;that water pours in when it rains !

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Sun 18 May, 2014 3:51 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: Waves magic wand That's it - lovely shot. I recall the pet isle somewhere in there.ps -How do you do that? Is it good filing or a crystal-clear memory unclouded by beer, pin numbers, alarm codes etc

skippy · Post by **skippy** » Sun 18 May, 2014 4:01 pm

zip55 wrote: My only recollection (pre market fire) of going upstairs in the markets was to a little cafe, on the left by the side of a newsagent as you come in the Vicar Lane / George St. entrance. I think it was a Birkbeck's cafe, one of two in the markets. Sound right? hi nick, you are right it was birkbecks café up the stairs, my mum once left her purse in there while having a cuppa, and some kind person posted it back to her, if that person is still with us today, god love you and thank you.

sujay · Post by **sujay** » Mon 19 May, 2014 3:57 pm

Leodian wrote: It's all fascinating stuff Phill. Thanks for it. The 1888 map in your post on 18-May-2014 00:05:53 interestingly shows there was a 'Calf & Pig Market' and a 'Hay & Straw Market'. There were also 4 public houses in a very small area to the top left, namely:- Red Lion P.H., Market Tavern P.H., St George's Stores P.H. and London Tavern P.H. (the 1891 map in the post on 15-May-2014 13:24:31 shows there was a Crown P.H. joined onto the Red Lion but it is not fully seen in the 1888 map). There was clearly a demand for drink then! The photo dated 1992 in your post of 18-May-2014 00:10:28 shows just how rubbish my memory of Leeds is! It's only 22 years ago but I have no recollection of the row of white fronted premises on the far side of George Street (?). I wonder when they were knocked down (probably just last week knowing my memory!). Are these the buildings you mean, Leo? The image is from Leodis and describes it as George Street, possibly 1980s. I remember the discount furniture store, and there was a shop that sold a bit of everything, including toys and diy type stuff, sort of a forerunner to the pound shops.

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Mon 19 May, 2014 6:01 pm

sujay wrote: Are these the buildings you mean, Leo? The image is from Leodis and describes it as George Street, possibly 1980s. The white Peugeot in that picture is F Reg, which means the picture can't be any earlier than 1988.

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Mon 19 May, 2014 7:23 pm

Thanks sujay for the photo. The expression "A picture is worth a thousand words" is apt here for me as I now recall the buildings. I see there were parking meters there then! Thanks also Bruno for dating the car "which means the picture can't be any earlier than 1988". I wonder when the buildings were knocked down? I would not be surprised if that was done to provide a 'temporary' car park that has lasted to now with the start of work on the Victoria Gate.