Burley Bar Stone - and the rest

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Wed 26 Feb, 2014 10:00 pm

I'd understood way back that Leeds Civic Trust et al were keeping a close eye on it?

LS1 · Post by **LS1** » Wed 26 Feb, 2014 10:39 pm

Half tempted to rip that bit of cladding off and confirm if it is there or not :-/

Carona · Post by **Carona** » Thu 27 Feb, 2014 12:58 am

LS1 wrote: Half tempted to rip that bit of cladding off and confirm if it is there or not :-/ Go for it

LS1 · Post by **LS1** » Thu 27 Feb, 2014 9:09 am

If I knew I wouldn't get arrested for vandalism I probably would!

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Thu 27 Feb, 2014 10:57 am

Jogon wrote: North Bar Stone being repositioned There is something not right with this photo at all. This isn't a new build wall, It's more of an after thought, or patch up job going on. I was surprised to see the rustic facing brick being used here. The rustic facing brick (which looks like a chocolate flake is the best way I can describe it) You can clearly see the rustic brick used at the top, and an inferior quality smoother brick on the lower courses. The lower course bricks look darker, and it looks to be slightly different or older pointing. Those lower bricks look to have been there longer in my opinion. Also on the joint of the two different buildings you see very bad building practice, you see small half bricks (or headers) built one on top of another. There is no brick stretcher bonding at all. That would never be specified on plans, and would never be passed by the CoW (Clerk of works) For example every wall built out of bricks has a stretcher bond, one brick always overlaps the brick below for strength. The brickwork behind the metal/wooden? sheeting also looks very old, and it is very rough. It wouldn't surprise me if that building was since demolished in all honesty. I can't imagine that was built at the same time the bar stone is being repositioned.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Thu 27 Feb, 2014 12:02 pm

What we see on that archive photo can't exist today at the joint of those two buildings.

Richard A Thackeray · Thu 27 Feb, 2014 12:54 pm

I'm certain that somewhere, in a big box of prints, up in the eaves of the attic, I have pictures of this area.I'll just have to crawl under there, drag it out, & sort through

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Thu 27 Feb, 2014 12:55 pm

Map can be viewed full size herehttp://tinyurl.com/o9z79w9I think the building on the left is the remains of one of those buildings seen on the old map above. Somewhere between St Mary's Chapel and the Crown and Anchor Inn. I'll have to try find some archive photos or demolition dates for them. The bus station itself was built and opened in 1936-7. Interesting to note this street was actually called North Street before being renamed to Vicar Lane.

LS1 · Post by **LS1** » Thu 27 Feb, 2014 1:17 pm

Is this the bit you refer to? I can't post a pic, but here is the link,...https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.79965 ... sRL8g!2e0I think that the photo shows the laying of the Bar Stone into the new (as was) bus station which is now covered by the cladding woodwork that is the vacant shop. At one time it looks like this was an entrance to the bus station but has been covered over and the entrance incorporated into the new shop with no trace remaining. Could the brickwork be different under the cladding?

LS1 · Post by **LS1** » Thu 27 Feb, 2014 1:26 pm

Afterthought - That old brickwork that is on the left pre-dates the building of the Hellenik so the man laying the stone would be doing it in the wall next to that of the older property before it was demolished. Assuming the old map is accurate, the bar stone would have been outside the old buildings as you say. Could it be that the stone was relocated during the building of the bus station in anticipation of the fact the older buildings to the left were to be removed. Any ideas on the date of the building next door to the old bus station? Looks 1960s.