lost churches

Uno Hoo · Post by **Uno Hoo** » Sat 20 Nov, 2010 11:48 pm

Cardiarms wrote: Happy to stand corrected! Actually, cardi, it may be necessary for me to eat some 'umble-pie. On re-reading your post after your generous remark above, I spotted the important word 'Wales'.I know very little about the history of Methodism in Wales. I tend to regard Welsh religious non-conformity as being overwhelmingly Baptist; it's possible that Methodism never achieved the membership and therefore finance in Wales to fund building on the same scale as elsewhere - particularly as in the West Riding.So Wales might be 'full' of Methodist and ex-Methodist tin tabs. I was thinking about Brudenell Road and the like. The supreme irony would be if someone can show that this building had started out Methodist after all! In my defence I would say that doubtless some tin tabs in Leeds and elsewhere were Methodist, but the majority of Methodist preaching-houses in this area are (were) substantial structures.There was an archetypal tin tab on Richardshaw Lane in Pudsey during the 1950s at the end of a street called New Scarborough where my great-aunt Grace lived. Does anyone remember that? I don't remember it being Methodist, as the district was awash with well-established Meth chapels of substantial structure. Still outnumbered by the pubs, though.

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 21 Nov, 2010 1:05 pm

Uno Hoo wrote: Cardiarms wrote: Bramley4woods wrote: Not a "Tin Taberrnacle" by any chance ?

that's them! As a lapsed Methodist I have to take issue with Cardiarms about the tin tabernacles being mainly Methodist. Not so. Most Methodist Chapels are (or were) substantial stone or brick edifices, often in a readily recognisable style. Tin tabs were mainly evangelical nonconformist denominations. Methodists were prolific builders, especially in the pre-1932 Union days of intensive rivalry between Wesleyans and Primitives which resulted in large buildings cheek-by-jowl, hence their survival in many instances as carpet warehouses and the like. The "tin tab" in Morley (Tin Mission) was on Middleton Road at the end of South Parade - it was Congregational (URC) and was part of St Mary's in the Wood (see other posts)Morley had loads of Methodist Chapels. Within a mile of Morley Town Hall were, Bethel, Ebenezer, Banks Hill, Brunswick (Albert Road) Fletcher (Cross Hall) Bruntcliffe, Birks and Queen Street. Plus the Temperance Hall which was basically Methodist and the Zion Independent (very strict Methodist) and the Nazarene (evangelical but basically Methodist) Zion and the Nazarene are still open but the only remaining Methodist church in the Town Centre is Queen Street (Central Methodist)I too am a lapsed Methodist. I was brought up at Ebenezer, a Primiitve Methodist Church, on Fountain Street, (flats now) which merged with Queen Street (Wesleyan) in about 1960. My whole life religious and social revolved around the Methodist church, Sunday School, Church, Youth Club, and Social Club. I reckon I went every weeknight either to the social or youth club, and 3 -4 times on Sundays. I no longer count myself a believer, but like the Jesuits say, give me the boy until he is seven and I will give you the man, what I learned has shaped my views and my entire life. You can take me out of the chapel but you can't take the chapel out of me.

Crazy Jane · Post by **Crazy Jane** » Sun 21 Nov, 2010 9:07 pm

Lapsed Methodist too, was at Seacroft Methodist church cira late 70s to early 80s.I would have to say that even coming from someone that doesn;t care much for religion as an adult, probably i saw more kindness from the people there as a child than i did from anywhere else.Perhaps someone on here has been around long enough to remember who had that church on Brudenall Road when it was still in use as a church?

Crazy Jane · Post by **Crazy Jane** » Sun 21 Nov, 2010 9:22 pm

Well i just discovered that if one googles "brudenall road church -tooting" this thread comes up at #6 Also found the 40th Aniversary gubbins from Leeds Chinese Christian Church, who apparently were based for a long time at the Hyde Park Methodist Mission at #47 Brudenall Road, unless there was more than one that could be the same site.http://www.leedsccc.org/40th%20annivers ... let.pdfSee newspaper clipping on page 5 of the linky-poo.Hyde Park Methodist Mission seems to be on Woodsley Road these days, and google maps is telling me #47 is much further up by the junction with Hyde Park Road, but also saying 'address is approximate' so it may just have mistracked it.The address of the mosque that's there now uses Brudenall Grove for it's street number, so hard to say if the older building might have used the Road instead.Maybe i'll just have to have a look the next time i go up there and see where #47 is.

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 21 Nov, 2010 11:43 pm

The Methodist Church in Leeds that I always wanted to see inside was Brunswick - near the Merrion Centre, it was supposed to be a Georgian gem, but it was always locked and bolted when I tried to investigate.My "uncle" (godfather really) was caretaker of the Methodist Chapel on Chapel Street in Headingley - I'm not sure if it's till open.

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Sun 21 Nov, 2010 11:48 pm

It's still going, my gran used to go and we had her remembrance service there. I was kidnapped and christened a methodist but lapsed almost immediately. I suppose I'm a demi-methodist at heart, a strong aversion to gambling but quite liek the sauce/

Uno Hoo · Post by **Uno Hoo** » Mon 22 Nov, 2010 12:34 am

I, too, Trojan, never made it to Brunswick. A place often spoken about with bated breath by older Methodists - bear in mind that was when I was a young Methodist - it was then a place of large congregations. I believe that Dr Leslie Weatherhead was minister there at one stage, altho' I can't confirm that from Wikipedia. He went on to become the President of the Methodist Conference. I don't get into that part of Leeds much. I take it the building's long gone?

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Mon 22 Nov, 2010 8:25 am

Uno Hoo wrote: I, too, Trojan, never made it to Brunswick.. I don't get into that part of Leeds much. I take it the building's long gone? Nor did I - I often looked at it with great interest and would like to have glimpsed inside, but too late now as it is indeed long gone.

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Mon 22 Nov, 2010 8:27 am

Trojan wrote: The Methodist Church in Leeds that I always wanted to see inside was Brunswick - near the Merrion Centre, it was supposed to be a Georgian gem, but it was always locked and bolted when I tried to investigate.My "uncle" (godfather really) was caretaker of the Methodist Chapel on Chapel Street in Headingley - I'm not sure if it's till open. The Methodist Chapel in Headingley is still open and there always seems to be plenty going on there.

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Tue 23 Nov, 2010 9:53 pm

Cardiarms wrote: It's still going, my gran used to go and we had her remembrance service there. I was kidnapped and christened a methodist but lapsed almost immediately. I suppose I'm a demi-methodist at heart, a strong aversion to gambling but quite liek the sauce/ I'm bit like that, although I usually have a bet on the National - I won £116 this year They tried to get me to sign the pledge when I was about 9 but my dad said that I wouldn't be able to ever have Christmas pudding again if I did because it had rum in it - so I didn't sign As I type this I'm listening to Messiah (it's the time of year) and although I consider myself an unbeliever these days, as I posted earlier - it's all still there in my subconscious presumably controlling everything a I do and think. (scary)