Leeds trolley buses set to get the go ahead!

[Si]

I think Simon's right. The only advantage of trolley buses is that their emissions come out of the top of chimneys at Ferrybridge instead of the vehicles' exhaust pipes. Electric transport is quite often described on TV and in the press as having "zero" emissions, which is incorrect.

[Phill_dvsn]

Si wrote: I think Simon's right. The only advantage of trolley buses is that their emissions come out of the top of chimneys at Ferrybridge instead of the vehicles' exhaust pipes. Electric transport is quite often described on TV and in the press as having "zero" emissions, which is incorrect. Very good point guys!

[Brandy]

Si wrote: I think Simon's right. The only advantage of trolley buses is that their emissions come out of the top of chimneys at Ferrybridge instead of the vehicles' exhaust pipes. Electric transport is quite often described on TV and in the press as having "zero" emissions, which is incorrect. yes SI very good point.They make out on the telly that the electric from the plug comes from some invisible ultra green power fairies.Instead of large pollution spewing drax like demons.as jim royal would say ZERO EMISSIONS............. MY AR$E.

[Si]

Brandy wrote: Si wrote: I think Simon's right. The only advantage of trolley buses is that their emissions come out of the top of chimneys at Ferrybridge instead of the vehicles' exhaust pipes. Electric transport is quite often described on TV and in the press as having "zero" emissions, which is incorrect. yes SI very good point.They make out on the telly that the electric from the plug comes from some invisible ultra green power fairies.Instead of large pollution spewing drax like demons.as jim royal would say ZERO EMISSIONS............. MY AR$E. You mean there are no ultra green power fairies at the bottom of my garden??? If we ever get efficient hydrogen-powered vehicles, someone's gonna complain about all that unsightly water coming out of the exhaust pipes!!!    

[chameleon]

Si wrote: Brandy wrote: Si wrote: I think Simon's right. The only advantage of trolley buses is that their emissions come out of the top of chimneys at Ferrybridge instead of the vehicles' exhaust pipes. Electric transport is quite often described on TV and in the press as having "zero" emissions, which is incorrect. yes SI very good point.They make out on the telly that the electric from the plug comes from some invisible ultra green power fairies.Instead of large pollution spewing drax like demons.as jim royal would say ZERO EMISSIONS............. MY AR$E. You mean there are no ultra green power fairies at the bottom of my garden??? If we ever get efficient hydrogen-powered vehicles, someone's gonna complain about all that unsightly water coming out of the exhaust pipes!!!     Not unless you're on the Absynth Si....

[Phill_dvsn]

Brandy wrote: Si wrote: I think Simon's right. The only advantage of trolley buses is that their emissions come out of the top of chimneys at Ferrybridge instead of the vehicles' exhaust pipes. Electric transport is quite often described on TV and in the press as having "zero" emissions, which is incorrect. yes SI very good point.They make out on the telly that the electric from the plug comes from some invisible ultra green power fairies.Instead of large pollution spewing drax like demons.as jim royal would say ZERO EMISSIONS............. MY AR$E. TBUS MY AR$E

[Riponian]

TBus maybe ought to get its power contract with Kellingley/Drax so at least that'll be local, not much else will be.A cross-city rail upgrade would be simpler and cheaper - Horsforth to Scholes - with an extra track east of Marsh Lane and get them onto the existing rail route. Yes it does mean rebuilding from Cross Gates to Scholes, but a P&R would be much better right on the edge of the city where's there's the room for a decent secure car park. Metro had plans for this back in the 70's it seems.    

[Trojan]

Keg wrote: Trojan, we have just as many and a far higher class of pothole in north Leeds. I run a Landrover Defender, and have had smoother off road jaunts than driving on our current roads.I believe that the supertram was due to run up to the left of the A660 as you were coming out of Leeds and it was due to run behind the Arndale centre.Lets face it, most ( and i do stress most, not all ) will like their own car.Simple as that But I'd like to bet the bins in North Leeds were emptied more regularly than ours in the recent strike, and I bet your roads were gritted, and if not gritted there was grit in the bins. Our road was gritted once, on the 19th December, and once the bin had been emptied it was never refilled (still hasn't been) we live on what must be one of the steepest roads in the city. But when North Leeds says jump the supine council say "how high please?" As for tranpsort. I travel to Bramley every day by car (not a Chelsea tractor either) for the simple reason that there's no bus. However, when I go into the city I go by bus - it's free for me.

[chameleon]

Trojan wrote: Keg wrote: Trojan, we have just as many and a far higher class of pothole in north Leeds. I run a Landrover Defender, and have had smoother off road jaunts than driving on our current roads.I believe that the supertram was due to run up to the left of the A660 as you were coming out of Leeds and it was due to run behind the Arndale centre.Lets face it, most ( and i do stress most, not all ) will like their own car.Simple as that But I'd like to bet the bins in North Leeds were emptied more regularly than ours in the recent strike, and I bet your roads were gritted, and if not gritted there was grit in the bins. Our road was gritted once, on the 19th December, and once the bin had been emptied it was never refilled (still hasn't been) we live on what must be one of the steepest roads in the city. But when North Leeds says jump the supine council say "how high please?" As for tranpsort. I travel to Bramley every day by car (not a Chelsea tractor either) for the simple reason that there's no bus. However, when I go into the city I go by bus - it's free for me. So you could probably go by bus - one into the centre - and another one out. Rather time consuming and that is a major factor in most folk's lives.

[raveydavey]

People will not drive to the fringes of Leeds in their cars, then pay to park and pay again to go on an electric bus to somewhere near where they work in the city centre.The proposed city centre route seems to be going around City Square, so will be of very limited appeal to anyone who works in the eastern half of the city centre.This is the fact that Metro and LCC seem unable to get their heads round.It's the same with saving 4-6 minutes on a bus journey down Kirkstall Road - all the Mis-Guided bus Lane will do is perpetuate Worst's monopoly on buses in Leeds, and you'll have the ludicrous situation that already exists on Harrogate Road and on York Road / Selby Road where some Worst buses use the very expensively constructed guided section, whilst all the buses from other companies, plus the Worst services without guide wheels, use the ordinary carriageway.