Here's something for the railway fans!

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 20 Feb, 2010 2:47 am

Brandy wrote: I could almost smell the old holborn(it just had to be lol)and the diesel fumes! what a mixture.......pure heavenBlooody well wrote was that mate nice one,and thanks for sharing. Your my bestest mate Brandy Thanks!

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Sat 20 Feb, 2010 9:10 am

What a wonderful "living" account of your vital trans Pennine nocturnal journey Phil. Its so graphically told and "real" that I feel I know every character - especially the "not so nasty after all" station supervisor - and every sensation of the ride. Its done me more good than a week's holiday so thanks again - and WHAT a movie that would have made eh ??

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sat 20 Feb, 2010 11:14 am

dogduke wrote: Looking at the video thro ' donny and the speed limits through main linestations in general I doubt that 100mph is allowed through Doncaster.The route could be set- through line-ecml to York with a minimum ofpoints 'in reverse'.'Reverse being the diverting positon of point work.The fewer number of points in reverse the higher the line speed possible.A ton approaching and beyond Donny - yes,through the station - no,it would be a magnet for poor souls wanting to end it all.On Doncaster Power Signal Box panel on the stretch south of Doncastertrains are timed, the speed is indicated on the signal panel.Sins of old are sins of old - big brother is watching EVERYTHING ! -as mentioned in other threads the days of 'are we saying anythingBobby(signalman.woman)have long gone.Don't mention the drinking that went on I was surprised at "a ton through Doncaster" but my info about railways is years out of date - back to the steam days. But I remember the fifties east coast non stop express "The Elizabethan" coming through York station, it didn't stop, but it certainly came through very slowly on the centre track.

BIG N · Post by **BIG N** » Sat 20 Feb, 2010 1:33 pm

Trojan wrote: I was surprised at "a ton through Doncaster" but my info about railways is years out of date - back to the steam days. But I remember the fifties east coast non stop express "The Elizabethan" coming through York station, it didn't stop, but it certainly came through very slowly on the centre track. To be fair Nick York does have a bit of a bend through it and a Ton up through there would be a nasty mess lolHowever, Doncaster up and down main are both 100 m.p.h. through the station and have been for as long as I can remember, in actual fact the non stop "flyers" now have to rub the brakes a touch approaching Donny as the line is 110m.p.h. either side of the station but speed has to be checked for the station area.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 20 Feb, 2010 2:20 pm

Your right BigN. Going back to the 1980's they would fly through Donny at top speed, the line has been improved upon since those days too.The Deltic cabs were sound proofed, they were so noisy. They've had that sound proof beefed up over the years too, so it isn't always easy to tell from a video...but... from what i can make out the power is applied from 1 min 33 secs into the video by 1 min 41 sec you can tell the engine is at full power, there's no time i can hear it's engine been wound down after that point.It hits Donny station at 3 mins 40 secs, That's 2 minutes under full power, I think Deltics soon hit top speed under full power, It doesn't take two minutes, you can't hold them back lol It certainly gets thrown about when it hits the pointwork in the station area too!

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 20 Feb, 2010 2:46 pm

Fast forward this video to 1 min 15 secs!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCYl3I91aKAIt's a Deltic just about to go through Doncaster centre road, This time it's not filmed from the comfort of a sound proof cab, it's taken out of the front coach window I don't think you can deny it's doing the ton here, you'd be hard pushed to catch your breath window hanging at that speed lol Whoosh

Post by **chameleon** » Sat 20 Feb, 2010 3:54 pm

Would these ever have gone through Crossgates Phill? they remind me of a time when as a 'treat' for the kids, we'd leave the car in Crossgates and take the train into town.I still recall one time, standing on the platform edge looking up the track when a beast came into view that clearly was not stopping there. His horns sounded and I inocently raised a hand to be treated to another blast of the horns. That was the day I learned two lessons - have great respect for these creatures and, the purpose of the yellow line running about a metre in from the edge of the platform- the no-mans-land. The blast of displaced air as he reached me quite literally knocked me off my feet! no idea how fast he was going but I certainly learned a lesson thereWonderous

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 20 Feb, 2010 4:27 pm

Hi Chameleon, yes they would have gone through Crossgates.Although it wasn't there regular stomping ground, they worked mainly the East coast mainline trains. Edinburgh, Newcastle, York, Doncaster-Kings Cross. The did venture away from those duties on occasions, they did the railtours and charter trains e.t.c.The first Deltic i saw was 55002 The Kings own Yorkshire Light Infantry going through Neville Hill, the noise of it coming was amazing, you could hear it a good minute away as it started to climb up Marsh lane cutting, I don' think videos actually do justice to the sheer power and noise of these Deltics. I remember one noteable story i was told by a hardcore Deltic fan, he was at Kings Cross when this Yank walks up looking at the Deltic, He says 'Hey Now that's one hell of an impressive looking machine, she looks dam powerful' He went on to say...'now boy, we have big engines in America, so i don't say that kind of thing lightly'.....Haha, those Yanks!! They got relegated onto the Trans Pennine services just before withdrawal, Newcastle, Leeds, Liverpool runs. The 125's had ousted them off the E.C.M.L trains. It was mainly the ethusiasts working in York control who diagrammed them on as much as they could...Just to let the enthusiasts get as much haulage before they were withdrawn.

Post by **chameleon** » Sat 20 Feb, 2010 5:39 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: Hi Chameleon, yes they would have gone through Crossgates.Although it wasn't there regular stomping ground, they worked mainly the East coast mainline trains. Edinburgh, Newcastle, York, Doncaster-Kings Cross. The did venture away from those duties on occasions, they did the railtours and charter trains e.t.c.The first Deltic i saw was 55002 The Kings own Yorkshire Light Infantry going through Neville Hill, the noise of it coming was amazing, you could hear it a good minute away as it started to climb up Marsh lane cutting, I don' think videos actually do justice to the sheer power and noise of these Deltics. I remember one noteable story i was told by a hardcore Deltic fan, he was at Kings Cross when this Yank walks up looking at the Deltic, He says 'Hey Now that's one hell of an impressive looking machine, she looks dam powerful' He went on to say...'now boy, we have big engines in America, so i don't say that kind of thing lightly'.....Haha, those Yanks!! They got relegated onto the Trans Pennine services just before withdrawal, Newcastle, Leeds, Liverpool runs. The 125's had ousted them off the E.C.M.L trains. It was mainly the ethusiasts working in York control who diagrammed them on as much as they could...Just to let the enthusiasts get as much haulage before they were withdrawn. Cheers Phill, that mind's eye image you have, sure it was one especially having watched the videos (and those in the menu links too - is it time I bought an anorak?)

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 20 Feb, 2010 5:45 pm

LOL I've never been ashamed to say i like trains, there is some silly notion it is a rather sad thing, there are a few geeky, bespectacled Numpties out there platform ending yes, but the majority aren't!!My mate from Sunderland who i met up with again a few years back said to me...You know Phill, if we hadn't taken up thrashing the 40's we'd have ended up been football hooligans or something, I'm glad i did something decent in my youth.He said he'd see his mates back home in the 80's, they'd say to him 'what did you do yesterday then Coll? Well I went to Scarborough on 40197, we had fish and chips, grabbed a beer, got some tins for the 40 back and met some birds on it. What did you lot do then? Well we set fire to the park hut, the parkie chased us...it was great.Nuff said lol I've just started to put together a few shots of some of the loons who did the 40's way back in the late 70's early 80's here!http://www.flickr.com/groups/cfas/discu ... 67/There's some dreadful haircuts, beards and fashoin, there's even a few Punks thrown in for good measure