LEEDS THE CAPTIOL OF THE NORTH

simonm · Post by **simonm** » Thu 13 Nov, 2008 12:55 pm

cnosni wrote: Not too sure how happy all those people are to be lumped in with Leeds. They should feel very very privellaged to be part of us and thankful that we allow them to be part of our great city.. hahahahaha

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Thu 13 Nov, 2008 7:13 pm

simonm wrote: cnosni wrote: Not too sure how happy all those people are to be lumped in with Leeds. They should feel very very privellaged to be part of us and thankful that we allow them to be part of our great city.. hahahahaha I live in Morley. I was born here and have lived here most of my life (apart from 10 years in West Ardsley ) I'm quite happy being part of Leeds, but I know that I'm in a minority. Morley Town Council's ruling independent group's entire party policy can be summed up as "it's all Leeds's fault"

simonm · Post by **simonm** » Fri 14 Nov, 2008 10:10 am

Nice one, I bet the majority of the towns swallowed up by Leeds over the years say EXACTLY the same thing

Reginal Perrin · Post by **Reginal Perrin** » Fri 14 Nov, 2008 11:05 am

cnosni wrote: Reginal Perrin wrote: It's a just a small point and a pretty pedantic one but Leeds is the SECOND largest city in the UK by population behind Birminham. London is a collection of two small cities (City of London and City of Westmister) and 32 boroughs. Well that is the case sice 1974,when all the places such as Otley etc came under the umbrella of Leeds.Not too sure how happy all those people are to be lumped in with Leeds.The actual urban population,based on the pre 1974 changes puts us around 3rd or 4th if i remember rightly,Manchester being 7th. Sorry for not being 34 years out of date CNOSNI. I wasn't aware we were operating in a previous age!! Plus Leeds has grown organically since then not just swallowing up smaller surrounding towns. Rothwell, my home town, was "swallowed up" and I'm happy to be part of Leeds. some older folk still recken we would have been better off in Wakefield but never really have any real reason for that. The only drawback I can see is that we seem to have a few too many Rhinos fans instead of Hunslet, Cas, Fev and Wakey ones.

Post by **cnosni** » Fri 14 Nov, 2008 5:12 pm

Reginal Perrin wrote: cnosni wrote: Reginal Perrin wrote: It's a just a small point and a pretty pedantic one but Leeds is the SECOND largest city in the UK by population behind Birminham. London is a collection of two small cities (City of London and City of Westmister) and 32 boroughs. Well that is the case sice 1974,when all the places such as Otley etc came under the umbrella of Leeds.Not too sure how happy all those people are to be lumped in with Leeds.The actual urban population,based on the pre 1974 changes puts us around 3rd or 4th if i remember rightly,Manchester being 7th. Sorry for not being 34 years out of date CNOSNI. I wasn't aware we were operating in a previous age!! Plus Leeds has grown organically since then not just swallowing up smaller surrounding towns. Rothwell, my home town, was "swallowed up" and I'm happy to be part of Leeds. some older folk still recken we would have been better off in Wakefield but never really have any real reason for that. The only drawback I can see is that we seem to have a few too many Rhinos fans instead of Hunslet, Cas, Fev and Wakey ones. Well it is really difficult to accurately compare population sizes if a particular citys boundaries have been grossly increased to take in surrounding towns and villages who have for centuries been independent.This was all done for admin and governance,and therefore to save money.If we were to say that Leeds had grown organically,which it has,then perhaps Manchester has grown organically and therefore should include in its border such places as the City of Salford and Oldham,which are at present merely in the County of Greater Manchester,and while we are at it lets scrap the county bit and make it all the City of Manchester.In fact lets go the whole hog and include parts of North West Cheshire.Either 34 or 334 years it doesnt change anything really,artificial changes to traditional boundaries are just that,artificial,maybe not officially but certainly historically.Humberside and Hull being a good example.Im quite happy for places like Rothwell,Otley and Morley to be associated with Leeds,but these places are historically independent from Leeds,and as a Yorkshireman i celebrate their independence and individual identity,which is all about what a Yorkshireman is.

Reginal Perrin · Post by **Reginal Perrin** » Thu 20 Nov, 2008 11:38 am

Fair do's. Bring under Leeds City Council or Rothwell Urban District Council has not had a ny impact on my Yorkshirenes though, I'm as tight, straight talking and grumpy as ever.

simong · Post by **simong** » Thu 20 Nov, 2008 2:11 pm

I'm all for the return of Aireborough myself