Leeds trolleybus scheme delayed further

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Mon 20 May, 2013 9:13 pm

Brunel wrote: From Leeds Civic Trust Borismaster? It looks like a TommyLordBox that survived into Worst Barbie livery days - with a coathanger on top.So, thats the master plan is it? Build a follybus no-one wants, hand it to Worst to run (well, they are doing a marvelous job with the ordinary buses, aren't they?) and then base the vehicle design on something that is 40-odd years old. Although they do get a single bonus point for the authentic lack of opening windows.Give me strength...

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Mon 20 May, 2013 10:35 pm

I've noticed that First Bus PLC announced its annual results today. Its £335.4m operating profit was down a little under 22%. It also proposes to raise £615m through a rights issue "to remove balance sheet constraints".

Loiner1960 · Post by **Loiner1960** » Tue 21 May, 2013 12:06 am

Well this weekend we should all go to the museum and have a ride.Open this Bank Holiday Weekend.http://www.sandtoft.org.uk/Oh and why would worst put "Leeds" on any of the folleybuses? It's not like their going anywhere else!

Brunel · Post by **Brunel** » Tue 21 May, 2013 1:37 am

Leeds Civic TrustThe new Leeds trolleybus of the future? Here is option 2, three doors and six wheels. Which design do you prefer?

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Tue 21 May, 2013 1:45 am

I prefer this one, it will at least keep Oldsyphilitic happy at Sandtoft this weekend

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Fri 24 May, 2013 9:51 am

If anyone does have a view on this ie like it; don't; waste of money; inflexible pointless etcthen please ensure you have 1. emailed your Councillor2. emailed your MP& ensure all your voting age contacts do likewiseboth easy to find - MP = postcode + MP + search etcotherwise it's just a gripe...

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Fri 24 May, 2013 10:15 am

Jogon wrote: otherwise it's just a gripe... Well I hope my online gripes causes maximum embarrassment to all concerned It was designed too

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Fri 24 May, 2013 6:50 pm

hope to hear back from Whitehall shortly and will, of course, report my findings.yours cordially

Loiner1960 · Post by **Loiner1960** » Mon 27 May, 2013 12:26 pm

"He shoots, he scores. It's an own goal."So electric buses aren't good enough. Loud coughing at the back. And built locally. More uncomfortable shuffling in their seats.Just goes to show, there is the smell of corruption somewhere, allegedly.http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at- ... -1-5713028

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Mon 27 May, 2013 1:04 pm

Loiner1960 wrote: "He shoots, he scores. It's an own goal."So electric buses aren't good enough. Loud coughing at the back. And built locally. More uncomfortable shuffling in their seats.Just goes to show, there is the smell of corruption somewhere, allegedly.http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at- ... -1-5713028 This is just typical VERY naughty terminology, no doubt calculated to mislead a public who are largely and understandably not remotely interested in the pros and cons of bus operation - they simply want an acceptable vehicle to turn up reliably at a fare which won't break the household budget. This will never be fully achieved while manufacturers and operators busy themselves with expensive zany marketing liveries and empty campaigns instead of realistically providing tangibly the service (product in ghastly modern "speak") which the passengers ("customers" also in ghastly modern "speak") require. The "ELECTRIC" buses in the York proposals, I imagine but could be wrong, will be the diesel hybrid/electric ones which we already see in Leeds with First (22 vehicles) and Arriva (12 vehicles).Their huge advantage over trolleybuses is that they require no unsightly infrastructure whatsoever. Also in their favour is that emissions are undoubtedly cleaner, but until and if they become very widespread there initial cost is very high indeed.