Ginnels of Leeds

[Si]

cnosni wrote: wiggy wrote: i think of ginnels,i think of the short one on stwilfrids avenue that runs between the houses onto easterly road,with the old farm gate post still in the middle of the path,the long one on the same street,that runs down toward the fforde grene,and used to be a railline from gipton pit,used to transport coal to the waiting wagons on harehills lane.then my favourite ginnel of them all,the one that runs from the junction of arlington road and oakwood lane,all the way through to elmete hill.this has an old manor house en route complete with what were stables,some houses that we all called the army barracks (look at em you will see why),a lovely old run of sandstone wall with bricked up doorways and stairs and another ginnel running perpendicular to it that once went to the archery fields.yes cnosni,thats what i call a set of ginnels!     Is that one still there between St Wilfreds and Easterley Road,i forgot about that one.Now i would have called that a snicket as its pretty much "open",apart from when it goes between the houses on to Easterley Road.Its all about what you used as a kid i suppose,my circle of friends in my youth used the term ginnel for a "passageway" between buildings and streets,where as paths on open ground between one area and another was a snicket. That was my understanding, too, Cnosni.

[wiggy]

Si wrote: cnosni wrote: wiggy wrote: i think of ginnels,i think of the short one on stwilfrids avenue that runs between the houses onto easterly road,with the old farm gate post still in the middle of the path,the long one on the same street,that runs down toward the fforde grene,and used to be a railline from gipton pit,used to transport coal to the waiting wagons on harehills lane.then my favourite ginnel of them all,the one that runs from the junction of arlington road and oakwood lane,all the way through to elmete hill.this has an old manor house en route complete with what were stables,some houses that we all called the army barracks (look at em you will see why),a lovely old run of sandstone wall with bricked up doorways and stairs and another ginnel running perpendicular to it that once went to the archery fields.yes cnosni,thats what i call a set of ginnels!     Is that one still there between St Wilfreds and Easterley Road,i forgot about that one.Now i would have called that a snicket as its pretty much "open",apart from when it goes between the houses on to Easterley Road.Its all about what you used as a kid i suppose,my circle of friends in my youth used the term ginnel for a "passageway" between buildings and streets,where as paths on open ground between one area and another was a snicket. That was my understanding, too, Cnosni. they are not open,as you will see if you have a gander,the short one on st wilfrids avenue could be a snicket,as this is a short path used to connect two areas but the others are definately ginnels.

[cnosni]

wiggy wrote: Si wrote: cnosni wrote: wiggy wrote: i think of ginnels,i think of the short one on stwilfrids avenue that runs between the houses onto easterly road,with the old farm gate post still in the middle of the path,the long one on the same street,that runs down toward the fforde grene,and used to be a railline from gipton pit,used to transport coal to the waiting wagons on harehills lane.then my favourite ginnel of them all,the one that runs from the junction of arlington road and oakwood lane,all the way through to elmete hill.this has an old manor house en route complete with what were stables,some houses that we all called the army barracks (look at em you will see why),a lovely old run of sandstone wall with bricked up doorways and stairs and another ginnel running perpendicular to it that once went to the archery fields.yes cnosni,thats what i call a set of ginnels!     Is that one still there between St Wilfreds and Easterley Road,i forgot about that one.Now i would have called that a snicket as its pretty much "open",apart from when it goes between the houses on to Easterley Road.Its all about what you used as a kid i suppose,my circle of friends in my youth used the term ginnel for a "passageway" between buildings and streets,where as paths on open ground between one area and another was a snicket. That was my understanding, too, Cnosni. they are not open,as you will see if you have a gander,the short one on st wilfrids avenue could be a snicket,as this is a short path used to connect two areas but the others are definately ginnels. The enclosed ones,ie between the houses onto Easterly Road i would call Ginnels,the unsurfaced old footpaths are what i would have called snickets,especially so if lined by hedges etc. Wiggy,you might be interested to know,unless of course you already do,(smart alec) that the snickets/open area between St Wilfreds an Easterley Road are on the exact route of the private railway from Gipton Pit down to its juncture with Roundhay road/Easterley Road.Ive got a map of old Leeds Tram lines and it quite clearly shows the route of the Gipton Pit Line ending up in the area just between the Fforde Grene and the junction of Easterley Road and Rondhay road,the route (from the pit)coming down parralell behind the present houses on bottom of Easterley Road opposite the clock,in fact on the link i have attached ,the red circle is roughly where this map shows a kind of interchange,two seperate tracks terminating from seperate directions,side by side.http://www.multimap.com/maps/?#t=l&map= ... 0yorkshire|    

[wiggy]

cnosni wrote: wiggy wrote: Si wrote: cnosni wrote: wiggy wrote: i think of ginnels,i think of the short one on stwilfrids avenue that runs between the houses onto easterly road,with the old farm gate post still in the middle of the path,the long one on the same street,that runs down toward the fforde grene,and used to be a railline from gipton pit,used to transport coal to the waiting wagons on harehills lane.then my favourite ginnel of them all,the one that runs from the junction of arlington road and oakwood lane,all the way through to elmete hill.this has an old manor house en route complete with what were stables,some houses that we all called the army barracks (look at em you will see why),a lovely old run of sandstone wall with bricked up doorways and stairs and another ginnel running perpendicular to it that once went to the archery fields.yes cnosni,thats what i call a set of ginnels!     Is that one still there between St Wilfreds and Easterley Road,i forgot about that one.Now i would have called that a snicket as its pretty much "open",apart from when it goes between the houses on to Easterley Road.Its all about what you used as a kid i suppose,my circle of friends in my youth used the term ginnel for a "passageway" between buildings and streets,where as paths on open ground between one area and another was a snicket. That was my understanding, too, Cnosni. they are not open,as you will see if you have a gander,the short one on st wilfrids avenue could be a snicket,as this is a short path used to connect two areas but the others are definately ginnels. The enclosed ones,ie between the houses onto Easterly Road i would call Ginnels,the unsurfaced old footpaths are what i would have called snickets,especially so if lined by hedges etc. Wiggy,you might be interested to know,unless of course you already do,(smart alec) that the snickets/open area between St Wilfreds an Easterley Road are on the exact route of the private railway from Gipton Pit down to its juncture with Roundhay road/Easterley Road.Ive got a map of old Leeds Tram lines and it quite clearly shows the route of the Gipton Pit Line ending up in the area just between the Fforde Grene and the junction of Easterley Road and Rondhay road,the route (from the pit)coming down parralell behind the present houses on bottom of Easterley Road opposite the clock,in fact on the link i have attached ,the red circle is roughly where this map shows a kind of interchange,two seperate tracks terminating from seperate directions,side by side.http://www.multimap.com/maps/?#t=l&map= ... 0yorkshire|     ah! the small ginnel is on the exact site of gipton farm,the big 7ft oak gate post is still insitue in the ginnel,it was the long one,a bit further up that was the rail line for the pit.if you look in the garden next to the small ginnel (council side)you can still see the footings of the farmhouse. cnosi,what is your name and where did you live mate?

[stevief]

There's a ginnel running from St. Michaels Lane to Kirkstall Lane by the side of the Carnegie Stadium and Cricket ground.

[cnosni]

ah! the small ginnel is on the exact site of gipton farm,the big 7ft oak gate post is still insitue in the ginnel,it was the long one,a bit further up that was the rail line for the pit.if you look in the garden next to the small ginnel (council side)you can still see the footings of the farmhouse. cnosi,what is your name and where did you live mate? Lived at Compton but wandered all over,went to Croggy same as you.

[billy the buffalo]

Plenty of ginnels still in Bramley 1. starts on Broad lane opposite the junction of newlay lane and runs onto town street opposite the junction of moorfields.2. one stars on town street at the side of wright and shields garage and runs parallel to westover road up to warrels road and then continues on the other side up to grosmont.3. another starts at wright and sheilds garage and runs behind the chemist ( which in days gone by was a pawnbrokers and was used by the people who did want to be seen entering the pawn shop) and it continues down to the rear of the new bramley clinic on prospect view.. it then continues again at the other side of hough lane and you can end up at the rear of the unicorn pub.4. this starts on town street at some steps opposite the manor house and runs down to broad lane it comes out near the black lion pub and is interesting because it still has a bollard there may be two which were placed there to stop cattle coming down the ginnel and trampling anyone coming up or down( it must be many a long day since there was a live cow in bramley .. no cheap jokes please ) 5. this starts on town street at the side of the barley mow and runs through to the ashbys and onto stanningley road .        

[Cfury]

Hi there everyonefirst message here! You can't move in my area of Horsforth (Newlay) for ginnels linking the bizarre windy (thats wind as in winding up, not as in bad weather BTW!) streets of the Wimpey estates. This seems to be an echo of the few remaining ginnels from the victorian/edwardian areas of the town including a great one that leads from Newlaithes Gardens, across Newlaithes road and all the way down to Pollard bridge. Its the best way to get from Tesco's to The Abbey pub! Newlaithes road itself has a few snaky U bends and cul-de-sacs that are normally linked by gravelled paths between the terraces as well. When I lived in York, ginnels were called snickleways, and there is even a great pub named after them.

[MrsG]

arry awk wrote: How's this for a combination?My dear wife hails originally from Seafordin Sussex, where they call a ginnel type alley,path,snicket whatever; a Twitten!We, in God's own place of residence, mainlycall it a Ginnel. (Still here?)When we lived in LUTON (OOOPS!),in the1960's They (Not us) called alleyways by the name of;TWINNELS !How did they know we were hybrids?Think abt it!ARRY Where I'm from (Northamptonshire) they're called a 'jitty' which i believe is ScottishWent college in Huntingdon and they called them snicketsI lived in Worthing for a couple of years, which is also Sussex and they called them 'twittens' there.so when i moved here & a girl i worked with asked me what leeds words i wanted to learn she gave me a very odd look when i asked what an alleyway was!!! She wouldn't believe they were called anything other than ginnels!

[Richard A Thackeray]

Cfury wrote: When I lived in York, ginnels were called snickleways, and there is even a great pub named after them. And don't forget there's even a guide-book to them, with a superb route plotted around them.I've walked it 2 or 3 times & it's lovely, you can come across people doing the same - with the book in their hands - & compare notes/photographsIt's nice to see the backs of the buildings, & the yards too.As much as I like York, it always strikes me as being too smart (if that's the right word?), I prefer to see the buildings as they are - not 'tittivated up'I think the walk is about 4 miles long & within a 1/4 mile radius of the Minster (unless you count the City Walls as a snickleway)http://www.amazon.co.uk/Walk-Around-Sni ... 362&sr=1-1