Who counts as a Loiner?

[cnosni]

Gandalf wrote: Support Leeds but still follow Man City. Hate the scum. Is that good enough. And rugby League????

[Mick_SGC]

I'm from Burley/Kirkstall. Does that make me from Leeds?

[Si]

I'd say so.

[simonm]

cnosni wrote: Gandalf wrote: Support Leeds but still follow Man City. Hate the scum. Is that good enough. And rugby League???? I used to have a season ticket to Leeds RL years ago, and even the mighty Bramley RLFC. RL has gone where Football is on it's way to now. All razamataz with the big TV chiefs deciding who should play who and when. Sky has killed sports for this country, imo.

[simonm]

Mick_SGC wrote: I'm from Burley/Kirkstall. Does that make me from Leeds? No, it means your a dirty minger and should keep quiet..

[Gandalf]

Family season ticket at Headingley before they went to summer rugby and matches all over the place

[wiggy]

simonm wrote: Mick_SGC wrote: I'm from Burley/Kirkstall. Does that make me from Leeds? No, it means your a dirty minger and should keep quiet.. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! thats made me laugh like hell,thanks simonm...thats made my day.......dave

[simonm]

I do try to keep people happy!

[Trojan]

Si wrote: I was born in Leeds, brought up in Pudsey and now live in Otley. If asked where I come from by someone in this region, I usually say Pudsey. Most people from Pudsey (or Otley) don't like to think of themselves as Leeds proper. It could have been worse for Pudsey in 1974 - it's nearer Bradford!However, having said that, when I lived in the North East and London, I would say I'm from Leeds (and proudly.) If that's to suit, I make no apologies. It' just simpler than explaining where Pudsey is. And anyway, I was born in Leeds! PS When I lived in Pudsey, it was generally accepted that if you were "going into town," it meant Leeds! As I said I was born and brought up in Morley, but unlike its Heavy Woollen neighbours Morley has always been very heavily influenced by Leeds, the LCT buses ran frequently to Leeds, on match days Elland Road specials ran from Morley. On Saturday nights because ot the vagaries of the licencing laws loads of Leeds people came to Morley to drink later. If we wanted furniture, clothes or major electical goods we bought them in Leeds at Valances or Currys. If I'm away either abroad, or in another part of the country I'll say I'm from Leeds. I certainly do feel a little ambivalent. I don't support Leeds Rugby, I do like it when United win. So I still don't know whether I qualify as a Loiner or not. If not perhaps I'm an imposter posting on here?

[frisbee]

The city boundaries of Leeds, like most cities, have evolved over the years. As recently as the 1930's even places like Hunslet and Holbeck were seperate townships with their own local administrations. Hunslet had a considerably large population and had a relationship to Leeds similiar to what Salford has to Manchester. Also in the 1930's areas to the east of the city such as Seacroft where annexed from neighbouring boroughs to allow the building of huge council estates to replace the houses demolished for the slum clearances. These boundary changes generally reflected the growth of the city especially where the growth of the suburbs merged into the outlying towns. Over the years with the growing need for public transport and public services, it made a certain sense to pool resources and it was a good idea for the larger city to absorb the smaller town units into its administration especially where there was no longer any physical seperation of the townships from the city and the population of the townships identifified with the city anyway.However in 1974, there was a massive change to the way local government was organised. One of the major changes was the abolition of the historic counties that had existed for hundreds of years. Overnight, huge chunks of Yorkshire were sliced off and parts of the county was even suddenly in Lancashire, and the eastern part of Yorkshire suddenly became Humberside. All over the country, new artifificial counties were created for local government admistration purposes. New counties like Teeside, Tyne & Wear, Merseyside and Greater Manchester etc appeared on the map. In Yorkshire, the old Ridings were abolished and Metropolotn Counties like West Yorks and South Yorks were created. Also in 1974. the old city councils were replaced with new Metroplotan City authorities. Leeds and Bradford had new metroplitan areas, that not only included the original city areas, but incorporated many of the surrouding towns. These new metrpoltian councils areas created a lot of controversy at the time. For instance Rothwell was originally intended to be included in the Wakefield Council area, but at the last minute it was moved into the Leeds Council area. The Rothwell public were against joining Leeds and even took the issue to the High Court. Many of 1974 County and local boundary changes caused similar outrage. While initially intended to unite comunities which had grown around either side of historic boundary, the politicians got old of it and turned it into political carve up, to ensure that they got to run certain areas. This led to the creation of new artifical boundaries that cut across long established communties and just run roughshod over peoples idenitification with such communities. Imagine growing up in Yorkshire all your life and then suddenly you are told you now live in Lancashire!Leeds and Bradford and Wakefield were treated slightly different than other big cities in the 1974 local government re-organisation. While Leeds Metro area took in a number of surrounding townships, similiar size cities like Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham areas were limited to included existing city boundaries (Manchester expanded slightly to the south to include the airport but didn't absorb any surrounding towns).Interestingly enough, some of the towns within the Leeds Metroplotan boundary area like Horsforth, Wetherby. Morley etc still have their own elected town councils, although the powers of these councils are very limited and they are not responsible for providing services.By the way, if you are interested in how the boundaries of your town changed over the years, there is a great website called Vision of Britain that shows when these various changes were made. http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/bound ... d=10001043