Leeds lost pubs

uncle mick · Post by **uncle mick** » Wed 05 Aug, 2009 5:11 pm

Cardiarms wrote: http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... AY=FULLThe White Bear - where was it? Don't suppose it could be a White Leopard do you,as the Leopard Hotel was in the vicinity ?? Just a lonnnng shot Michael

Si · Post by Si » Wed 05 Aug, 2009 5:39 pm

uncle mick wrote: Cardiarms wrote: http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... AY=FULLThe White Bear - where was it? Don't suppose it could be a White Leopard do you,as the Leopard Hotel was in the vicinity ?? Just a lonnnng shot Michael That crossed my mind, Mick, but it would have to be a spotless, overweight Manx leopard!

Crazy Jane · Post by **Crazy Jane** » Wed 05 Aug, 2009 7:29 pm

Lots of shutters coming off, but i don;t know what it means. The shutters have been off the George IV for a month or two now and nothing has happened with it still!Maybe the owners are hoping someone will torch it for the insurance.Speaking of which, does anyone remember The Sportsman Hotel on Headingley Mount. It was still there when i moved into Headingley Avenue cira 1990, but a few years later seemed to get squatted, partially torched, squatted again, totally torched and then pulled down

String o' beads · Post by **String o' beads** » Wed 05 Aug, 2009 9:23 pm

Si wrote: drapesy wrote: Cardiarms wrote: http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... AY=FULLThe White Bear - where was it? Well this is a mystery and no mistake!!!Like the person who put up the caption on Leodis I am stumped!I can name the pubs on Briggate now and in the past pretty much of the top of my head (20 +if pushed ) but no White Bear. And whilst I would never say 'never' I'm struggling to think of a White Bear anywhere in Leeds in the past 100 years.There was a White Bear on Kirkgate, but that disappears from Directories after1809!The only other ones I can think of around Leeds -are on Leeds Road Bradford (now derelict and boarded up like most pubs on Leeds Road) and of course at Tingley.Tingley actually had 2 nearby pubs - the 'Old White Bear' and the 'New White Bear' - the latter survives and has dropped the 'New' part of its name.I wonder if things are as simple as they appear in the photo though?The picture doesn't actually show a pub - only a sign with the name on it - I wonder if it might be some sort of a 'cab stop' or similar to catch transport to a 'White Bear' pub somewhere - possibly Tingley??? Your theory sounds feasible, Drapesy, if the White Bear at Tingley was as well known then as it is now. (BTW, there's a White Bear in Idle, too.)The drawing is definately a bear, isn't it? It would be on the wrong side of Briggate for catching a cab to Tingley wouldn't it?

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Wed 05 Aug, 2009 9:47 pm

Crazy Jane wrote: Lots of shutters coming off, but i don;t know what it means. The shutters have been off the George IV for a month or two now and nothing has happened with it still!Maybe the owners are hoping someone will torch it for the insurance.Speaking of which, does anyone remember The Sportsman Hotel on Headingley Mount. It was still there when i moved into Headingley Avenue cira 1990, but a few years later seemed to get squatted, partially torched, squatted again, totally torched and then pulled down I remember the 'sportsman hotel'; but it wasn't really a pub to be honest - it was a proper hotel with a bar open to the public. (its a subtle difference I know - and don't ask me to define it!!!!)

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » Thu 06 Aug, 2009 12:12 am

Crazy Jane wrote: Lots of shutters coming off, but i don;t know what it means. The shutters have been off the George IV for a month or two now and nothing has happened with it still! Well I should imagine one thing's certain that being that it won't be reopening as a condition of its sale is that it can no longer be used as a licensed premise.

Si · Post by Si » Thu 06 Aug, 2009 11:28 am

Geordie-exile wrote: Si wrote: drapesy wrote: Cardiarms wrote: http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... AY=FULLThe White Bear - where was it? Well this is a mystery and no mistake!!!Like the person who put up the caption on Leodis I am stumped!I can name the pubs on Briggate now and in the past pretty much of the top of my head (20 +if pushed ) but no White Bear. And whilst I would never say 'never' I'm struggling to think of a White Bear anywhere in Leeds in the past 100 years.There was a White Bear on Kirkgate, but that disappears from Directories after1809!The only other ones I can think of around Leeds -are on Leeds Road Bradford (now derelict and boarded up like most pubs on Leeds Road) and of course at Tingley.Tingley actually had 2 nearby pubs - the 'Old White Bear' and the 'New White Bear' - the latter survives and has dropped the 'New' part of its name.I wonder if things are as simple as they appear in the photo though?The picture doesn't actually show a pub - only a sign with the name on it - I wonder if it might be some sort of a 'cab stop' or similar to catch transport to a 'White Bear' pub somewhere - possibly Tingley??? Your theory sounds feasible, Drapesy, if the White Bear at Tingley was as well known then as it is now. (BTW, there's a White Bear in Idle, too.)The drawing is definately a bear, isn't it? It would be on the wrong side of Briggate for catching a cab to Tingley wouldn't it? Errr...yeah, you're right!

uncle mick · Post by **uncle mick** » Thu 06 Aug, 2009 5:32 pm

Cardiarms wrote: http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... AY=FULLThe White Bear - where was it? 1872 Leeds Directory White Bear Inn J.L. Smith George and Dragon Yard Briggate Cracked it

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Thu 06 Aug, 2009 8:10 pm

uncle mick wrote: Cardiarms wrote: http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... AY=FULLThe White Bear - where was it? 1872 Leeds Directory White Bear Inn J.L. Smith George and Dragon Yard Briggate Cracked it Nice one. This is certalnly one that's 'crept beneath the radar' - I've never heard of it before - and there's nothing on Leodis. I wonder if there's a photo of it anywhere. to have 2 pubs in the same Yard off Briggate was not unique - The Wheatsheaf and The Leopard were both in the same yard (Wheatsheaf yard) for instance. Burton's arcade was built over the old George and Dragon Yard;http://www.leodis.org/display.aspx?reso ... 9_40171450

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Thu 06 Aug, 2009 9:09 pm

Excellent! Are you going to update the Leodis site?