THINGS YOU DON'T SEE ANYMORE (Part 1)

fevlad · Post by **fevlad** » Sun 16 Mar, 2008 6:19 pm

Trojan wrote: fevlad wrote: Trojan wrote: HTB wrote: We used to do Ip dip dog S**T, But then I am from the East End, I see Eeny meeny macceracca, is still going, is it based on a foreign number system? Like yan, tan, tetherer, netherer perhaps? isn't that a norse system?still used in the dales for counting sheepthere's a folk song called 'Old Molly Metcalfe' which features this. I'm not sure whether it's Norse or Anglo Saxon, but it's certainly used in North Yorkshire, and Cumbria. I used to deal with a guy in Malton who used "yan" for one and "tiv" for to all the time. He once gave me a large order, and I wasn't sure whether he'd placed it or not, so I asked him if it was correct his words? "Ah's think soa"I would think that the Romany origin of enny meeny is probably more likely.The version my cousin and her mates (all girls) used was "eeny meeny miney mo, put the baby on the po, when it's done wipe its bum, eeny" etc. you may well be right

fevlad · Post by **fevlad** » Sun 16 Mar, 2008 6:26 pm

just remembered that Old Molly Metcalfe is a jake Thackray songalthough I had it on a Tony capstick albumso there's the leeds connection!

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 16 Mar, 2008 8:18 pm

fevlad wrote: just remembered that Old Molly Metcalfe is a jake Thackray songalthough I had it on a Tony capstick albumso there's the leeds connection! My favourite Jake Thackray song is "The Kirkstall Road Girl" which is about a prostitute who's gone up in the world and contains the line "Now she's got a Rolls Royce voice and an E Type smile" I suppose that must date it.

fevlad · Post by **fevlad** » Sun 16 Mar, 2008 8:30 pm

Trojan wrote: fevlad wrote: just remembered that Old Molly Metcalfe is a jake Thackray songalthough I had it on a Tony capstick albumso there's the leeds connection! My favourite Jake Thackray song is "The Kirkstall Road Girl" which is about a prostitute who's gone up in the world and contains the line "Now she's got a Rolls Royce voice and an E Type smile" I suppose that must date it. correctthey're all down water lane now

Dalehelms · Post by **Dalehelms** » Sun 16 Mar, 2008 10:50 pm

In Glasgow you find out who is "het" or "out" using:Zeenty teenty figgury fellEll dell domin ellArky parky torry ropeAn tan toosy jokeEery orryEery orryYou are out.I might have blown my cover, because any Leeds primary pupil from 1974 to 2005 might recognise this means of identifying the winner!For anyone who is interested in Childrens' Oral Traditions, there is a programme on Radio 4 on Monday 17th March at 3.45 pm. It is presented by Michael Rosen, and although not from Leeds, should contain interesting contemporary material.

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 16 Mar, 2008 11:12 pm

The Opies certainly described in one of their books a game we used to play at junior school. I've never seen it anywhere since. One lad stood with his back to the wall and another lad made like a leapfrog back with his head cradled in the first lad's hands, someone jumped on the second lad's back, and then a third lad got into the leapfrog position up against the second lad, and another lad jumped on his back, and so on, the idea was once everyone was in position for the lads who were "down" to try and dislodge those who were "mounted". It's fifty years since I played but the only other place I've seen it is in this book by the Opies.

wiggy · Post by **wiggy** » Mon 17 Mar, 2008 1:27 am

Trojan wrote: The Opies certainly described in one of their books a game we used to play at junior school. I've never seen it anywhere since. One lad stood with his back to the wall and another lad made like a leapfrog back with his head cradled in the first lad's hands, someone jumped on the second lad's back, and then a third lad got into the leapfrog position up against the second lad, and another lad jumped on his back, and so on, the idea was once everyone was in position for the lads who were "down" to try and dislodge those who were "mounted". It's fifty years since I played but the only other place I've seen it is in this book by the Opies. never had you down as a public school boy trojan!

Pashy · Post by **Pashy** » Mon 17 Mar, 2008 6:17 am

TrojanThat game was played regularly at Lower Wortley PS and West Leeds HS in the early 60's It was then called Ship & AnchorThe sports master Stan Wilson used to encourage it.Andy

LS1 · Post by **LS1** » Mon 17 Mar, 2008 9:24 am

wiggy wrote: LS1 wrote: Sorrry to lower the tone, but white dog poo. Never see that anymore! that was my opening salvo,along with the two headed dog! Oh yeah - just noticed. Still wondered why it was white though! Have a look at this for some answers...http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqueri ... 31,00.html

Si · Post by Si » Mon 17 Mar, 2008 11:07 am

oldleedsman wrote: Toys: potato guns; guns with a reel of caps; small rockets that you put single caps in and threw in the air and when they landed on the pavement, they went 'bang' (simple pleasures, eh); sekiden guns that fired little pellets; water pistols.Sweets: bubblegum which came with cards that you collected. The reverse of each card made up a big picture. There were lots of series - American Civil War, The Monkees, The Man From Uncle, etc. Sweet cigarettes that also had cards you collected. Yeah, I remember them rockets. And Sekiden guns....little gold coloured plaster pellets you poured into a hole in the top. There was also a toy gun with a real revolving cylinder into the back of which you fitted a plastic ring of caps. In fact you don't see toy guns at all these days. I seem to remember calling the bubble-gum cards "Civil War Atrocity" cards, as they had gory illustrations, like a captured confederate soldier being tied to the business-end of a cannon!