A very old Establishment down the Skulls head yard (Part 1)

Phill_d · Post by **Phill_d** » Sat 12 Apr, 2008 1:58 am

drapesy wrote: Brandy wrote: come on then lets try and get this into the YEP and see if we can get owt done??im sure if we shout long and hard someone will listen eh??let's face it this has turned into a belting little thread, and it would be nice to see em moved back to there rightful place. ps/ the building there on now is only stretcher bond brick with block behind so the stone heads must only go back the length of a brick,so it wont be that hard to do. I think we'd all agree that their current location is totally unsuitable and inappropriate.The question is do we: a) lobby to get them back to their original location ?- if we can access/find it (- with a suitable plaque I would suggest. ) But whilst this might be satisfying the skulls would still be very inaccesible .or b) try to get the council involved to put them in a good accessible location on a public building in the city centre? Good question Drapsey. In my opinion I think they should be placed for all to see. No better location than underneath the crown sign on the old pub and a small plaque telling the story underneath. I don't think having them placed in the original position is much better than were they are now. Any other thoughts?? York has loads of this stuff and plays on it. In Leeds we hide it!

Post by **cnosni** » Sat 12 Apr, 2008 2:06 am

OK Ladies and Gentlemen,lets not muck about.A simple roll call of those willing to undertake some form of action for the skulls and their replacement to a more fitting environment would be welcome after this posting.(in other words,any one that wants to do owt about it stick their 'and up!)

Post by **cnosni** » Sat 12 Apr, 2008 2:08 am

drapesy wrote: Brandy wrote: come on then lets try and get this into the YEP and see if we can get owt done??im sure if we shout long and hard someone will listen eh??let's face it this has turned into a belting little thread, and it would be nice to see em moved back to there rightful place. ps/ the building there on now is only stretcher bond brick with block behind so the stone heads must only go back the length of a brick,so it wont be that hard to do. I think we'd all agree that their current location is totally unsuitable and inappropriate.The question is do we: a) lobby to get them back to their original location ?- if we can access/find it (- with a suitable plaque I would suggest. ) But whilst this might be satisfying the skulls would still be very inaccesible .or b) try to get the council involved to put them in a good accessible location on a public building in the city centre? Drapesy you have been mentioned already in a sub group for SL

Phill_d · Post by **Phill_d** » Sat 12 Apr, 2008 2:09 am

Yes mate. You know my planned input already!

Post by **cnosni** » Sat 12 Apr, 2008 2:09 am

Phill_d wrote: drapesy wrote: Brandy wrote: come on then lets try and get this into the YEP and see if we can get owt done??im sure if we shout long and hard someone will listen eh??let's face it this has turned into a belting little thread, and it would be nice to see em moved back to there rightful place. ps/ the building there on now is only stretcher bond brick with block behind so the stone heads must only go back the length of a brick,so it wont be that hard to do. I think we'd all agree that their current location is totally unsuitable and inappropriate.The question is do we: a) lobby to get them back to their original location ?- if we can access/find it (- with a suitable plaque I would suggest. ) But whilst this might be satisfying the skulls would still be very inaccesible .or b) try to get the council involved to put them in a good accessible location on a public building in the city centre? Good question Drapsey. In my opinion I think they should be placed for all to see. No better location than underneath the crown sign on the old pub and a small plaque telling the story underneath. I don't think having them placed in the original position is much better than were they are now. Any other thoughts?? York has loads of this stuff and plays on it. In Leeds we hide it! On the Crown building,deffo!

Post by **cnosni** » Sat 12 Apr, 2008 2:11 am

Phill_d wrote: Yes mate. You know my planned input already! Thats Phil and me in.who else?

Phill_d · Post by **Phill_d** » Sat 12 Apr, 2008 2:15 am

cnosni wrote: Phill_d wrote: Yes mate. You know my planned input already! Thats Phil and me in.who else? Hey Shandy man.. You might have a while to wait for the next reply. It's 01.15 in the morning. they might all be asleep lol i think tomorrow we might have some more action mate

Brandy · Post by **Brandy** » Sat 12 Apr, 2008 2:17 am

count me in!

String o' beads · Post by **String o' beads** » Sat 12 Apr, 2008 2:21 am

cnosni wrote: Phill_d wrote: Well this is a good point Brandy. I'm thinking the same thing. Who else thinks this should be the fitting thing to do and a nice little story for the S.L gang? I can have a few words in the right shell like for this one. Phil you know im in there mate.Sent this to the Leeds civic trust aleady,prior to the last 2 posts:"Please read all the entries on this thread from secret leeds first(theres 5 pages).http://www.secretleeds.com/forum/Messag ... Message=0I think the conservation of this historical artefact is well worth the effort.We the contributors of Secret Leeds only lack the resources and knowhow to preserve such relics of our local history,whereas yourselves know what to do to ensure the preservation of such unique historical instances.We on Secret Leeds are the common Loiners ,upholders of our towns past.No heirs nor graces,no one upmanship that one feel pervades through the ranks of those lucky enough to have gone on to higher education.Basically, Leeds lads and lasses say,get the skulls somewhere safe for future generations.You are Leeds civic trust,do summat about it." PS yes ive had some shandies when i sent this,but its quite restrained by my Shandy standards With respect cnosni, I do appreciate what you were trying to achieve there but such bodies at the Civic Trust aren't likely to take seriously approaches such as that. I don't think it's appropriate to assert, 'we at Secret Leeds' - you can't speak for all of us without a consensus, although I support this campaign. If a Secret Leeds campaign is to be mounted it needs to be coordinated, agreed, and presented in an acceptable, grammatical and concise fashion. By the way, I didn't go on to higher education - I was instructed in no uncertain terms to leave school after O Levels and get a job - so please don't think I'm being elitist. I just think that to be taken seriously, we would need to present a case that is acceptable under the terms that these people operate.

Phill_d · Post by **Phill_d** » Sat 12 Apr, 2008 2:31 am

I actually agree with csnosi's approach here. Often in these cases you have to take the unorthodox approach, there is far too much mumbling and grumbling & messing about with red tape here. Which probably explains why nothing ever gets done. All talk and no action I think were all too familiar with. Tell it to them straight and get on with the job. I think if i used the formal approach I'd still be photographing butterflies in canal gardens!