Leeds lost pubs

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Tue 24 Jun, 2008 11:17 pm

sundowner wrote: drapesy wrote: So Parksider - was there a 'Union' and an 'Albion' or just a 'Union' ??? Hi just joined when i saw you were talking about the union pub i thought i would add a few words.The union pub was on pearson st this was the main rd. The back to backs ran off of pearson st.I think there were seven streets .ie Tender st Peel st Ashley st William st . I can not rember any more.Old age has taken its toll. I do hope this has not spoiled the thread.I was too young to go in to the union pub when i lived there but did go back for a pint before it closed Happy days. I'm not sure what Drapesy means by his question "albion"?What did I miss Mr. D?As for you sundowner - how can you "spoil the thread" great to hear your memories.Vaux, Brougham and Ripon were the other streets. My dad was born in Peel Street. the area was pottery field. there was nowhere posh in Hunslet but someone said Pottery field was the roughest bit!! My dad said the building on the corner of butterley street and leathley road was the "cabbage" inn? The pottery referred to was the stafford pottery. When disused/knocked down my dad said you could dig up small pot marbles which the kids one side of the railway used to chuck at the enemy the other side on cross myrtle street.I never knew my grandad and it was said he committed suicide but my dad said "never" as he felt he was a hard working guy with no more probs than anyone else. Nobody talked about it much for most of my life then those who knew passed on, but when mi Bruvver did family tree research he came up with the newspaper report of the alleged suicide in 1932.Apparently my gran woke up choking from gas from the mantle above the bed. She made it to the window and screamed for the neighbours. My grandad was dead though.Weird to read your grandads death in the paper 75 years after it happened!!

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Tue 24 Jun, 2008 11:48 pm

The Parksider wrote: johnnyg wrote: Starbuck wrote: Has anyone any information or pictures of The Albion on the corner of Jack Lane and Grape Street in Hunslet. It had been my Mum's "Grandad's"(step grandad or something) pub and my parents had their wedding do in there (Feb 59) after which I think it soon closed. Can't find anything on Leodis. Pubs must have been in the family - Mum was born in the Waterloo on East Street in 1940 I have attached a photo from "The Hunslet Engine Works: over a century and a half of locomotive building" by D. H. Townsley, published by Plateway Press in 1998 (ISBN 1 871980 38 0), page 153. The photo is of the Hunslet Engine Co, on Jack Lane which runs left to right across the lower part of the photo. The white building on the right of the row of terraced houses is, I think, The Albion that you refer to. This photo is from 1949. The building in the centre on the right-hand edge of the photo (just creeping into the picture) is the British Queen on Grape Street. Brilliant Johnny,My Dad's family lived in those streets between the engine company and Fowlers. Piccy's of them are very rare. This one a delight sir!On the main street the back to backs were on (Pearson Street) was Tetleys house "The Union" closed probably around 1960, but it's frontage stayed as a wall for the extended Engine company for 20 years.So "The Union" another lost pub. Hi Parksider -What I meant was the original query (above ) from Johnny G and then Starbuck talked about a pub called the 'Albion' but your answer refers to the 'Union'. I'm not sure if there was 2 seperate pubs or if in the original query the poster is mistaken about the name 'Albion'- if you know what I mean!!

sundowner · Post by **sundowner** » Wed 25 Jun, 2008 12:05 pm

Hi parksider nice to hear about pottery fields.its funny you should Mention the marbles we used to find little pot pyramids well thats what they looked like they were used to keep the pottery apart in the kiln not that we new that at the time.The cabbage pub you mention would that be the pineapple pub? Next door to this was the council yard we used to watch the rats running about on an evening when the yard was closed.In answer to the question that i think was from drapesy the albion and the union were two sepa rate pubs about a five minutes stagger from each other but between was the red lion i think thats the name so two and a half minutes stagger between each.I must stress i was to young to drink in those days no under age drinking in my day. just had a thought that pub could have been called the british queen not the red lion HELP

Si · Post by Si » Wed 25 Jun, 2008 12:10 pm

The Melbourne Vaults (long gone) and The Bay Horse (still there) in Otley had doors two-and-a-half feet apart under a covered ginnel. That's a rain-proof one second stagger!!!

sundowner · Post by **sundowner** » Wed 25 Jun, 2008 12:27 pm

HI Si that rhymes that does not count as a record because it took them ten minutes to get the horse through the door so the pints would not be flowing has quick.Ha.Ha

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Wed 25 Jun, 2008 11:20 pm

Si wrote: The Melbourne Vaults (long gone) and The Bay Horse (still there) in Otley had doors two-and-a-half feet apart under a covered ginnel. That's a rain-proof one second stagger!!! I used to love the Melbourne Vaults in my Otley days Si - if I remember rightly their "ginnel" had a shallow step down from the pavement before you went through the inner doors - this was effective in causing those leaving in a hurry without paying to trip up and therefore have to cough up when apprehended.I also seem to remember one big long wide room inside with the bar on the left, and rather dimly lit ??

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Wed 25 Jun, 2008 11:39 pm

drapesy wrote: Hi Parksider -What I meant was the original query (above ) from Johnny G and then Starbuck talked about a pub called the 'Albion' but your answer refers to the 'Union'. I'm not sure if there was 2 seperate pubs or if in the original query the poster is mistaken about the name 'Albion'- if you know what I mean!! Hi Drapesy.The white pub on Pearson Street had part of the Union sign showing for years and I saw it listed in old records when I worked in Tetley's accounts, as The Union. My dad always knew it as the Union.Godfreys shows the Union as PH and the cabbage as PH (but does not name the cabbage - could that have been a nickname and actually have been Albion?Round the corner British Queen, over the railway bridge to cross myrtle street and there was an old pub in ebony street, I don't know what this was called.

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Wed 25 Jun, 2008 11:54 pm

drapesy wrote: Hi Parksider -What I meant was the original query (above ) from Johnny G and then Starbuck talked about a pub called the 'Albion' but your answer refers to the 'Union'. I'm not sure if there was 2 seperate pubs or if in the original query the poster is mistaken about the name 'Albion'- if you know what I mean!! The pub at 33-35 Ebony street was the potters arms - quite apt name for it stood between the jack lane and stafford potteries.It was a pub in 1826 and leodis has a wonderful record of that side of Pottery field (nowt of the other side sadly).It closed in 1913 so maybe too old for a Leeds lost pub.But sundowner should get on leodis for that part of Hunslet around cross myrtle street was very old indeed and the leodis photographic record excellent. The old pub is shown after closure.Grim place!!

sundowner · Post by **sundowner** » Thu 26 Jun, 2008 8:57 am

Thanks for that parksider i will have a look on leodis. I used to live in ashley st next street but one from the union pub so i remember it very well left in 1959 slum clearance too young to go in but did pop down for a pint before it closed It was a poor area but fun cost nothing at that time If i had my time over i would not change a thing about my time in hunslet.An hunslet lad and proud of it.

Si · Post by Si » Thu 26 Jun, 2008 9:35 am

BLAKEY wrote: Si wrote: The Melbourne Vaults (long gone) and The Bay Horse (still there) in Otley had doors two-and-a-half feet apart under a covered ginnel. That's a rain-proof one second stagger!!! I used to love the Melbourne Vaults in my Otley days Si - if I remember rightly their "ginnel" had a shallow step down from the pavement before you went through the inner doors - this was effective in causing those leaving in a hurry without paying to trip up and therefore have to cough up when apprehended.I also seem to remember one big long wide room inside with the bar on the left, and rather dimly lit ?? I don't remember The Vaults, Blakey. Closed before I moved there in 1988. However, the Boroughgate entrance to The Bay Horse is down a couple of steps, but the ginnel entrances to both pubs are now filled in.I believe both pubs shared their gents toilets - out the back.