I am lost for words (nearly) at this...

[Trojan]

I once saw a woman kick her kid on the beach at Scarborough. I feel guilty to this day that I did nothing about it.He was only a toddler and she said "get your f***in' self here," and when he came she kicked him.Some time ago I was standing in a sandwich shop and a woman, well a girl really, was in front of me. Her child, another toddler, kept running out into the the street. But she didn't want to lose her place. He eventually ran out and was playing with the spinning sign that advertised the shop, right next to a busy road with buses going past less than 6 feet away. She did nothing. I went out, picked him up and took him back into the shop. When I told my wife she was apalled at my action - I could have been prosecuted. What a world.

[dogduke]

I attempted to reply to the previous posts.Decided to just post a moderate comments.The facts unfortunately speak for themselves.Further comments may have been regarded as racist - I am not.Incomers need to accept our hard won freedom of speeech and belief in acceptable behaviorWe that have the good fortune to be born here must not allow those that rightly or wrongly have thrust themselves upon us,they must integrate.It may be acceptabe in some societies to beat your wife and family but we must not allow it to be so so here.The justice system may have have failed the victims,sadly I hope the prison code of dealing with child molesters prevails.Integrstion is I fear a long way off

[biggee99]

You will find every time if no money involved dose not matter.council tax fines you go to prison THIS MATTERS every time MONEY MONEY MONEY.

[chameleon]

dogduke wrote: I attempted to reply to the previous posts.Decided to just post a moderate comments.The facts unfortunately speak for themselves.Further comments may have been regarded as racist - I am not.Incomers need to accept our hard won freedom of speeech and belief in acceptable behaviorWe that have the good fortune to be born here must not allow those that rightly or wrongly have thrust themselves upon us,they must integrate.It may be acceptabe in some societies to beat your wife and family but we must not allow it to be so so here.The justice system may have have failed the victims,sadly I hope the prison code of dealing with child molesters prevails.Integrstion is I fear a long way off Very well and properly stated opinion dogduke

[Trojan]

dogduke wrote: I attempted to reply to the previous posts.Decided to just post a moderate comments.The facts unfortunately speak for themselves.Further comments may have been regarded as racist - I am not.Incomers need to accept our hard won freedom of speeech and belief in acceptable behaviorWe that have the good fortune to be born here must not allow those that rightly or wrongly have thrust themselves upon us,they must integrate.It may be acceptabe in some societies to beat your wife and family but we must not allow it to be so so here.The justice system may have have failed the victims,sadly I hope the prison code of dealing with child molesters prevails.Integrstion is I fear a long way off Child cruelty is not a racial thing though is it? The woman I saw kick her kid at Scarborough, from the way she spoke was clearly from Hull.It's nearly two years since the Shannon Matthews business.Shannon Matthews' mum wasn't an Asian, she was as British as she could be. It's child cruelty and whoever commits it deserves the worst punishment the law can impose.Children are innocent and whilst they may need discipline, they don't warrant this sort of treatment. Whatever their race. They are like a blank sheet of paper and what we write on that piece of paper is vital because it will be there forever.    

[chameleon]

Trojan wrote: dogduke wrote: I attempted to reply to the previous posts.Decided to just post a moderate comments.The facts unfortunately speak for themselves.Further comments may have been regarded as racist - I am not.Incomers need to accept our hard won freedom of speeech and belief in acceptable behaviorWe that have the good fortune to be born here must not allow those that rightly or wrongly have thrust themselves upon us,they must integrate.It may be acceptabe in some societies to beat your wife and family but we must not allow it to be so so here.The justice system may have have failed the victims,sadly I hope the prison code of dealing with child molesters prevails.Integrstion is I fear a long way off Child cruelty is not a racial thing though is it? The woman I saw kick her kid at Scarborough, from the way she spoke was clearly from Hull.It's nearly two years since the Shannon Matthews business.Shannon Matthews' mum wasn't an Asian, she was as British as she could be. It's child cruelty and whoever commits it deserves the worst punishment the law can impose.Children are innocent and whilst they may need discipline, they don't warrant this sort of treatment. Whatever their race. They are like a blank sheet of paper and what we write on that piece of paper is vital because it will be there forever.     I think the intention of the post was simply to illustrate culktral differences which may exist and prevail - nothing more and of course the poster was at pains to avoid that label I think.

[cnosni]

Trojan wrote: dogduke wrote: I attempted to reply to the previous posts.Decided to just post a moderate comments.The facts unfortunately speak for themselves.Further comments may have been regarded as racist - I am not.Incomers need to accept our hard won freedom of speeech and belief in acceptable behaviorWe that have the good fortune to be born here must not allow those that rightly or wrongly have thrust themselves upon us,they must integrate.It may be acceptabe in some societies to beat your wife and family but we must not allow it to be so so here.The justice system may have have failed the victims,sadly I hope the prison code of dealing with child molesters prevails.Integrstion is I fear a long way off Child cruelty is not a racial thing though is it? The woman I saw kick her kid at Scarborough, from the way she spoke was clearly from Hull.It's nearly two years since the Shannon Matthews business.Shannon Matthews' mum wasn't an Asian, she was as British as she could be. It's child cruelty and whoever commits it deserves the worst punishment the law can impose.Children are innocent and whilst they may need discipline, they don't warrant this sort of treatment. Whatever their race. They are like a blank sheet of paper and what we write on that piece of paper is vital because it will be there forever.     Wholeheartedley agree with these sentiments,there are many forms of abuse in all societies,just ask Josef Fritzl,who is as white as can be.frankly i am of the opinion that 12 months is not enough.This guy will be inside on "own protection",as a result he will be a good boy and will,as Brandy says,be elligible for tagging in 3 months (unless he has has previous)

[Crazy Jane]

"sadly, probably true - but justice must be maintained.... "The law must be maintained, i'd agree. Justice can damn well look the other way

[Trojan]

chameleon wrote: I think the intention of the post was simply to illustrate culktral differences which may exist and prevail - nothing more and of course the poster was at pains to avoid that label I think. I think so too and I wasn't trying to imply that it was a racist post. I just think we need to be careful generalising. After all this atrocity occurred in the Batley and Dewsbury area, as did the Shannon Matthews business, it could be argued that it's typical of behaviour in the Heavy Woollen district.The 7/7 bombers were Asians, but they were also from Beeston. Which is more significant? Are all Asians likely to kill themselves by blowing up tube trains? Or are all the residents of Beeston likely to kill themselves by blowing up tube trains?

[chameleon]

Trojan wrote: chameleon wrote: I think the intention of the post was simply to illustrate culktral differences which may exist and prevail - nothing more and of course the poster was at pains to avoid that label I think. I think so too and I wasn't trying to imply that it was a racist post. I just think we need to be careful generalising. After all this atrocity occurred in the Batley and Dewsbury area, as did the Shannon Matthews business, it could be argued that it's typical of behaviour in the Heavy Woollen district.The 7/7 bombers were Asians, but they were also from Beeston. Which is more significant? Are all Asians likely to kill themselves by blowing up tube trains? Or are all the residents of Beeston likely to kill themselves by blowing up tube trains? Quite so - tar and brush perhaps - but always in proportion to any risk