Where is it made now??

[Trojan]

simonm wrote: Trojan wrote: Terry's Chocolate (owned by Kraft) is now produced in Belgium, Sweden, Poland and Slovakia.I wonder if this will also be the fate of Cadburys.There's been a lot of fuss about Cadburys being taken over, when Terrys closed in York I don't remember it even being mentioned on the national news.http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/th ... 09122.html I would imagine that Cadbury's will lose out eventually to the overseas, cheaper option for Kraft. Still, no doubt our peoples govmnt will stand in and save the day. Oh... Wait a min.. I think they already have done. Sweet FA as usual. What would you like them to do? After all isn't the lesson we were taught by "the Lady" in the eighties that the market is always right?

[simonm]

Im not saying EITHER side would have done owt, but to sit back and allow yet another piece of British Heritage to slip away is becoming a joke. Not one single word from the govmnt in help went to Cadbury. Just another nail in the coffin of national individualism.Also, another point scored for the globalists!

[chameleon]

simonm wrote: Im not saying EITHER side would have done owt, but to sit back and allow yet another piece of British Heritage to slip away is becoming a joke. Not one single word from the govmnt in help went to Cadbury. Just another nail in the coffin of national individualism.Also, another point scored for the globalists! As Trojn says Simon, it's a private market and ultimately it was the shareholders who voted to sell, you can't stop individuals exercising their perogative there, other than to make a better offer, politics and legislation have no part to play in it, that's not the way it works    

[tilly]

chameleon wrote: simonm wrote: Im not saying EITHER side would have done owt, but to sit back and allow yet another piece of British Heritage to slip away is becoming a joke. Not one single word from the govmnt in help went to Cadbury. Just another nail in the coffin of national individualism.Also, another point scored for the globalists! As Trojn says Simon, it's a private market and ultimately it was the shareholders who voted to sell, you can't stop individuals exercising their perogative there, other than to make a better offer, politics and legislation have no part to play in it, that's not the way it works     I might be wrong but i think what simonn is getting at is. Not a lot is British any more.We lost the Coal Mines. the Steel Industry. Ship Building. British Motor Bikes,the Fishing Fleet.Enginering egTrains.Cranes there must be a lot more. Now we depend on more and more imports. We even produce more gas than we can use in summer we have no way to store it so we sell it to Germany then buy it back in winter at a greater price.We import coal from Poland when we have have enough coal underground to last out our lifetime.As i see it no one in the past wanted to invest in new technology so we were overtaken by other countrys who would invest and now we are dependant on them. You might say it works what happens when they decide to bang up the prices.    

[Trojan]

tilly wrote: chameleon wrote: simonm wrote: Im not saying EITHER side would have done owt, but to sit back and allow yet another piece of British Heritage to slip away is becoming a joke. Not one single word from the govmnt in help went to Cadbury. Just another nail in the coffin of national individualism.Also, another point scored for the globalists! As Trojn says Simon, it's a private market and ultimately it was the shareholders who voted to sell, you can't stop individuals exercising their perogative there, other than to make a better offer, politics and legislation have no part to play in it, that's not the way it works     I might be wrong but i think what simonn is getting at is. Not a lot is British any more.We lost the Coal Mines. the Steel Industry. Ship Building. British Motor Bikes,the Fishing Fleet.Enginering egTrains.Cranes there must be a lot more. Now we depend on more and more imports. We even produce more gas than we can use in summer we have no way to store it so we sell it to Germany then buy it back in winter at a greater price.We import coal from Poland when we have have enough coal underground to last out our lifetime.As i see it no one in the past wanted to invest in new technology so we were overtaken by other countrys who would invest and now we are dependant on them. You might say it works what happens when they decide to bang up the prices.     In the eighties it was government policy to allow manufacturing industries in this country, "smokestack industries" was the derogatory term for them I believe, to decline and we would make our living mainly from the City taking a profit for managing money. That's how we got into the mess. The City is in trouble so the country is in trouble in a nutshell that is our problem. Obvously over simplified.    

[raveydavey]

To be honest, there are worrying parallels with the Kraft takeover of Cadburys and the Carlsberg takeover of Tetleys (Allied Domecq?).Much was / is promised about two great brand coming together, both with a long history. Then the dust settles, the beancounters take control, quality slips (does anyone reckons Tetleys is as good now as it was 20 years ago), inferior products (cheaper to produce) are given massive promotion over core quality products and before you know it stuff is being sold off (Brewery Wharf...Cadbury World?) and then production is shifted somewhere cheaper.Just think of that next time you spread a cheese triangle on your bread.

[Cardiarms]

Labour/production is cheaper elsewhere. If you were running a business what would you do? Pay expensive halfwits from Rotherham or cheap trained engineers in Indonesia. The British still own a large slice of the global pie, we just don't do it here.

[Si]

The renaming of the cleaning product "Jif" to "Cif" is a metaphor for Britain's standing in the world. The old spelling's correct pronunciation required knowledge of English. The letter J is pronounced differently throughout Europe. The new spelling caters for most European languages, except English. What goes around...Other American examples in a similar vein, are McDonalds insisting that chips are fries, and Mars changing Marathon to Snickers, despite it sounding like knickers.    

[Cardiarms]

Aye, que sera sera....

[simonm]

Cardiarms wrote: Labour/production is cheaper elsewhere. If you were running a business what would you do? Pay expensive halfwits from Rotherham or cheap trained engineers in Indonesia. The British still own a large slice of the global pie, we just don't do it here. What a nasty derogatory thing to say!