Dialect/slang

majorhoundii · Post by **majorhoundii** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 9:06 am

jim wrote: "Can I get......?" instead of "Can I have.....?" Scottish I think

majorhoundii · Post by **majorhoundii** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 9:14 am

Ian Macmillan, the Barnsley poet did a programme on R4 the other week, he was talking about the spot where dialect changes. In particular the area between Sheffield and Chesterfield where " 'ouse" (house) changes to " '[edited for content]" But in passing he mentioned that living in Barnsley he was midway between the Sheffielder's "de dar" (thee tha)speak and the West Yorkshire "av go'a go 'a Bra'for'" twang.The point where the Yorkshire ow sound changes to the Lancashire eow sound has alway interested me. You can hear both only miles apart the Yorkshire sound in Marsden and the Lancashire sound just up the road in Diggle.

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 9:19 am

BarFly wrote: raveydavey wrote: Hearing Nicola Adams and her pure, unadulterated Leeds accent has been a small joy this last couple of weeks. I've not been watching the Olympics so I've not heard her. I like it when Nell McAndrew and Angela Griffin are on TV for the same reason. My accent's a little watered down, but anyone from Leeds would recognise me as a fellow Leodian.The earlier talk of "t't pub" and the like reminds me of the Michael McIntyre routine about "t'Lion, t'Witch and t'Wardrobe." and explaining to some Norwegian friends it should be more like "_Lion, _Witch n _Wardrobe" where the "_" is just a gap (or glottal stop, as I think it's known). Jeremy Clarkson, of all people, set the record straight on Top Gear by saying the "t" isn't pronounced but is sometimes a nod.As for Emmerdale the two people I've met from it speak on screen with pretty-much the same accents as they do day-to-day but with a little less emphasis on their regional accent, neither being from Yorkshire. In my experience, many of todays "actors", especially the younger generation in soaps, aren't really actors at all. They are just people who read out scripts in exactly their own persona, with no or little discernible difference between the character on screen and the person off screen. I guess that is partly due the assembly line characteristic of soaps nowadays where they are on 5 or more times a week, rather than once or twice as they used to be.

somme1916 · Post by **somme1916** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 10:03 am

raveydavey wrote: BarFly wrote: raveydavey wrote: Hearing Nicola Adams and her pure, unadulterated Leeds accent has been a small joy this last couple of weeks. I've not been watching the Olympics so I've not heard her. I like it when Nell McAndrew and Angela Griffin are on TV for the same reason. My accent's a little watered down, but anyone from Leeds would recognise me as a fellow Leodian.The earlier talk of "t't pub" and the like reminds me of the Michael McIntyre routine about "t'Lion, t'Witch and t'Wardrobe." and explaining to some Norwegian friends it should be more like "_Lion, _Witch n _Wardrobe" where the "_" is just a gap (or glottal stop, as I think it's known). Jeremy Clarkson, of all people, set the record straight on Top Gear by saying the "t" isn't pronounced but is sometimes a nod.As for Emmerdale the two people I've met from it speak on screen with pretty-much the same accents as they do day-to-day but with a little less emphasis on their regional accent, neither being from Yorkshire. In my experience, many of todays "actors", especially the younger generation in soaps, aren't really actors at all. They are just people who read out scripts in exactly their own persona, with no or little discernible difference between the character on screen and the person off screen. I guess that is partly due the assembly line characteristic of soaps nowadays where they are on 5 or more times a week, rather than once or twice as they used to be. True,only "soap"I'm interested in though is Cussons unscented.......

somme1916 · Post by **somme1916** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 10:06 am

majorhoundii wrote: jim wrote: "Can I get......?" instead of "Can I have.....?" Scottish I think I believe there is some merit in that thinking back to when I used to travel/work North of the border......becomes ever more popular,particularly amongst the young as youthful bar staff are always asking the question....."What can I get you....? " to which the natural reply comes...."Can I get .....?" aaaaarrgghhhh

Si · Post by Si » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 11:00 am

raveydavey wrote: In my experience, many of todays "actors"...aren't really actors at all. They are just people who read out scripts in exactly their own persona... "Just say the lines, and don't trip over the furniture."-Noel CowardAs for the soaps, it does seem to me that there is a large proportion of Lancashire accents on Emmerdale (particularly the Dingles), and a large proportion of Yorkshire accents on Coronation Street (particularly David Platt.)

Johnny39 · Post by **Johnny39** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 11:38 am

I always thought the actors in "Last of the Summer Wine" were good with their accents, both male and female.

jdbythesea · Post by **jdbythesea** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 12:01 pm

I think it's fair to say, certainly from what I've seen on TV over the years, that most Casting Directors wouldn't know a Yorkshire accent from a Manchester one. The "North" is just one region to them.Variations can be too subtle to spot by an outsider - an example might be the pronunciation of NOWT. It sounds very different on our side of the Pennines than on the other. JD

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 1:03 pm

In Ilkley (and elsewhere no doubt) in the 1940s/50s/60s the local branch of the Leeds Industrial Co-operative Society was always referred to as "Cwarp" (as in "warped") or "Stooers."

BJF · Post by **BJF** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 1:28 pm

I think "Can I get" is an Aussie thing that was picked up from "Neighbours".