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Uno Hoo · Post by **Uno Hoo** » Tue 10 Apr, 2012 5:16 pm

[quotenick="Caron"][quotenick="Uno Hoo"][quotenick="stutterdog"][quotenick="Caron"][quotenick="stutterdog"][quotenick="Caron"][quotenick="BarFly"] Caron wrote: Heck, Uno Hoo, small world int it.Uno Hoo, Where in Farsley do your auntie and uncle live? and...when did the sub post master scandal take place? Was it in the late 70's early 80's? I was reading up on Coal Hill Baptist Cemetery yesterday. I used to walk miles when I lived there and came across the cemetery quite by chance one afternoon. It was in such a state. I couldn't do much in the way of exploring as my eldest daughter was in a pushchair so I gave up on the idea. Did I read correctly that the graveyard is being sold? I think it's so wrong to do so. People paid to be buried there, the church were happy to take their money so the church should show respect. There are plenty of unemployed folk who I'm sure could lend a hand in tidying these areas....the folk in these old cemeteries are folk who helped make Leeds when all's said and done. Auntie Betty & Uncle Bill, surname Proctor (she was better known locally as Lizzie) lived above their shop at 46 Town Street, Farsley, until their retirement in 1965, when they moved to 15 Croft St. The hardware shop and plumbing business was C. Proctor & Son, Uncle Bill being the son. The shop closed as a hardware shop on their retirement, and continues as something else - I haven't been past for a long time. The plumbing business was continued by one of Bill's nephews who is probably himself retired by now. Google shows C Proctor & Son, plumbers, in Electron House, Moorfield Place, Leeds 12, so it's probably been sold on again.The postmaster scandal would be late 1950s. I think his name was Holmes, but don't take that as gospel. Rgds,UH

Caron · Post by **Caron** » Tue 10 Apr, 2012 10:36 pm

[quotenick="Uno Hoo"][quotenick="Caron"][quotenick="Uno Hoo"][quotenick="stutterdog"][quotenick="Caron"][quotenick="stutterdog"][quotenick="Caron"] BarFly wrote: Caron wrote: Heck, Uno Hoo, small world int it.Uno Hoo, Where in Farsley do your auntie and uncle live? and...when did the sub post master scandal take place? Was it in the late 70's early 80's? I was reading up on Coal Hill Baptist Cemetery yesterday. I used to walk miles when I lived there and came across the cemetery quite by chance one afternoon. It was in such a state. I couldn't do much in the way of exploring as my eldest daughter was in a pushchair so I gave up on the idea. Did I read correctly that the graveyard is being sold? I think it's so wrong to do so. People paid to be buried there, the church were happy to take their money so the church should show respect. There are plenty of unemployed folk who I'm sure could lend a hand in tidying these areas....the folk in these old cemeteries are folk who helped make Leeds when all's said and done. Auntie Betty & Uncle Bill, surname Proctor (she was better known locally as Lizzie) lived above their shop at 46 Town Street, Farsley, until their retirement in 1965, when they moved to 15 Croft St. The hardware shop and plumbing business was C. Proctor & Son, Uncle Bill being the son. The shop closed as a hardware shop on their retirement, and continues as something else - I haven't been past for a long time. The plumbing business was continued by one of Bill's nephews who is probably himself retired by now. Google shows C Proctor & Son, plumbers, in Electron House, Moorfield Place, Leeds 12, so it's probably been sold on again.The postmaster scandal would be late 1950s. I think his name was Holmes, but don't take that as gospel. Rgds,UH I must have passed their house on Croft Street 1000's of times as I used to live on Frederick Street which was at the very end of Rusholme Drive. I only seem to remember Farsley D.I.Y. which is opposite Greggs but then it was the 80's I lived there.Do you know if the house on New Street where the Yorkshire Ripper struck is still there? Looks to me as if it may be gone and a care home has been built there. The post office scandal was before my time so my excitement has been short lived hahahaha.Thanks caron

Uno Hoo · Post by **Uno Hoo** » Thu 12 Apr, 2012 2:21 pm

[quotenick="Caron"][quotenick="Uno Hoo"][quotenick="Caron"][quotenick="Uno Hoo"][quotenick="stutterdog"][quotenick="Caron"][quotenick="stutterdog"] Caron wrote: BarFly wrote: Caron wrote: Heck, Uno Hoo, small world int it. Rgds,UH I must have passed their house on Croft Street 1000's of times as I used to live on Frederick Street which was at the very end of Rusholme Drive. I only seem to remember Farsley D.I.Y. which is opposite Greggs but then it was the 80's I lived there.Do you know if the house on New Street where the Yorkshire Ripper struck is still there? Looks to me as if it may be gone and a care home has been built there. The post office scandal was before my time so my excitement has been short lived hahahaha.Thanks caron I must say I don't recall the Ripper striking in Farsley, so can't answer that bit.In an attempt to get back on topic, Uncle Bill used to refer to unsophisticated people as "gawbies", i.e. yokels or hicks. I never heard this phrase used by anyone else.

Caron · Post by **Caron** » Thu 12 Apr, 2012 4:04 pm

Hi Uno HooYes, the ripper attacked a Marguerite Walls. She worked in Pudsey. Her body was found in the grounds of a detached house (up the road from the doctors in New Street). Clarence House, I think it was called but not sure. Think it happened 1980? I do read these things but can't retain dates etc.My neighbour was followed up a walkway near the cricket club one night by a fella whilst walking her dog. Anyway, she phoned the cops as she said he was acting strangely etc etc. She gave a description to the cops and they did a drawing of him. After they arrested Sutcliffe the cops paid her a visit and told her her description was infact that of Sutcliffe. Course, she saw Sutcliffe on tele and she said she felt ill. Not surprised!! If you go on google Earth there's a (i) where it happened but it looks to me as though the house has gone but I'm not 100%.When we first came to live in Poole, my father would refer to locals here as, "Country Gawbies".... lol.

majorhoundii · Post by **majorhoundii** » Thu 12 Apr, 2012 8:55 pm

Caron wrote: Hi Uno HooYes, the ripper attacked a Marguerite Walls. She worked in Pudsey. Her body was found in the grounds of a detached house (up the road from the doctors in New Street). Clarence House, I think it was called but not sure. Think it happened 1980? I do read these things but can't retain dates etc.My neighbour was followed up a walkway near the cricket club one night by a fella whilst walking her dog. Anyway, she phoned the cops as she said he was acting strangely etc etc. She gave a description to the cops and they did a drawing of him. After they arrested Sutcliffe the cops paid her a visit and told her her description was infact that of Sutcliffe. Course, she saw Sutcliffe on tele and she said she felt ill. Not surprised!! If you go on google Earth there's a (i) where it happened but it looks to me as though the house has gone but I'm not 100%.When we first came to live in Poole, my father would refer to locals here as, "Country Gawbies".... lol. I think this was the next to the last Ripper victiim before the student at Headingley who was the last.When you look at the amount of clues the police had pointing to Sutcliffe it amazed me that they didn't catch him at least 3 years before they actually did.

Uno Hoo · Post by **Uno Hoo** » Thu 12 Apr, 2012 11:23 pm

stutterdog wrote: [When I moved to Farsley in the 70's there was a pork butchers on Town St. Everybody called it "Pork Jim's). I dont know the ownwers surname. It was opposite the New Inn.In those days there were 2 bakers shops too! I've done a bit of research (i.e. spoken to my sister) and she says that the manager at Davison Pork Butcher in Farsley was Jim Crowther. So it seems reasonable that he'd be the Pork Jim in question. She can't remember the name of the baker's shop, but she liked going in there because there was a very pleasant young man behind the counter - we're talking about her teenage years here.

Uno Hoo · Post by **Uno Hoo** » Thu 12 Apr, 2012 11:28 pm

Caron wrote: Hi Uno HooYes, the ripper attacked a Marguerite Walls. She worked in Pudsey. Her body was found in the grounds of a detached house (up the road from the doctors in New Street). Clarence House, I think it was called but not sure. Think it happened 1980? I do read these things but can't retain dates etc.My neighbour was followed up a walkway near the cricket club one night by a fella whilst walking her dog. Anyway, she phoned the cops as she said he was acting strangely etc etc. She gave a description to the cops and they did a drawing of him. After they arrested Sutcliffe the cops paid her a visit and told her her description was infact that of Sutcliffe. Course, she saw Sutcliffe on tele and she said she felt ill. Not surprised!! If you go on google Earth there's a (i) where it happened but it looks to me as though the house has gone but I'm not 100%.When we first came to live in Poole, my father would refer to locals here as, "Country Gawbies".... lol. I have to say that I still don't remember the Farsley tragedy during the Ripper's reign, but thanks for filling in the detail.Pleased to hear that someone else has heard the term "gawby".

stutterdog · Post by **stutterdog** » Thu 12 Apr, 2012 11:57 pm

Uno Hoo wrote: Caron wrote: Hi Uno HooYes, the ripper attacked a Marguerite Walls. She worked in Pudsey. Her body was found in the grounds of a detached house (up the road from the doctors in New Street). Clarence House, I think it was called but not sure. Think it happened 1980? I do read these things but can't retain dates etc.My neighbour was followed up a walkway near the cricket club one night by a fella whilst walking her dog. Anyway, she phoned the cops as she said he was acting strangely etc etc. She gave a description to the cops and they did a drawing of him. After they arrested Sutcliffe the cops paid her a visit and told her her description was infact that of Sutcliffe. Course, she saw Sutcliffe on tele and she said she felt ill. Not surprised!! If you go on google Earth there's a (i) where it happened but it looks to me as though the house has gone but I'm not 100%.When we first came to live in Poole, my father would refer to locals here as, "Country Gawbies".... lol. I have to say that I still don't remember the Farsley tragedy during the Ripper's reign, but thanks for filling in the detail.Pleased to hear that someone else has heard the term "gawby". The house on New St. where the murder of Margarite Walls took place was called Claremont. It was indeed demolished and the Claremont nursing home was built on the site. I was a bus driver at the time of the Rippers reign of Terror and I was stopped by the police at least 3 times on my way to work at Bramley Bus Garage when I was on early turn. It was most diconcerting to have a dark clothed figure leaping out in front of my car waving a torch for me to stop!

Heating-eng · Post by **Heating-eng** » Fri 13 Apr, 2012 1:15 am

Si wrote: When I was a lad in Pudsey, "laik" was used all the time. "Is Paul laikin' out?" for example. I don't know if "calling" has anything to do with The Calls, as it is pronounced as in Tallin, with a short "ah" sound. Some others:'ey up - various meanings, from a greeting to "look out."Now then - a greeting.Summat - something.Give over - stop it.Daft 'a'peth - Silly person (daft half penny worth.)Snicket - a ginnel. Anyone know if these are interchangeable, or are there different definitions?Nesh - feels the cold.Fair thraiped - knackered.Jiggered - ditto (or broken/damaged.)Any more?Cheers Si I never even thought I had an accent lol

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Fri 13 Apr, 2012 10:12 am

stutterdog wrote: I was a bus driver at the time of the Rippers reign of Terror and I was stopped by the police at least 3 times on my way to work at Bramley Bus Garage when I was on early turn. It was most diconcerting to have a dark clothed figure leaping out in front of my car waving a torch for me to stop! It was a terrible time, and I was on early turn on the book at Headingley when news came through about the Ripper's first victim in Scott Hall Road - her son is now a famous author on the subject. During the Ripper's "reign" there was a kind on unwritten agreement that male employees would give the ladies lifts to and from work in the early mornings and late evenings - many of the lasses were understandably very frightened by it all.