1854 Building?

liits · Post by **liits** » Wed 31 Aug, 2011 5:01 pm

1881 Kelly's DirectoryJohn Wilcock Jn. - Woollen Merchant1914Star Agency Ltd - Button Merchants.1908W Brayshaw & Son - Carpet Factors1916, 24 & 47T H Sagar & Son - Wholesale Ironmonger

LS1 · Post by **LS1** » Wed 31 Aug, 2011 6:08 pm

Johnny39 wrote: Guiseley_Guile wrote: Does the top line read Burtons, or Duttons? I don't know if I'm being of help or just muddying the waters but if you go to Leodis - City Centre - Bedford Street (pic. no. 2004224-8621789 it refers to a firm by the name of Buckley's. The pic. is actually of Greek Street but refers to Buckley's also being in Bedford Street as well. Sorry if what I'm writing is irrelevant. It would have been both effectively as Bedford Street is "Back Greek Street" these days so more than likely it would have gone through from Greek Street to Bedford Street.

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Wed 31 Aug, 2011 6:25 pm

On peering ever closer I have almost nearly just about convinced myself that the covered name/word above the 4 may be Buckles or Bucklese. If it is buckles then that may fit in with what I think might (I stress might!) be buttons for the top covered word. Its interesting that liits mentions a button merchants. Mind you there seems to be a small 'y' near the end of the Buckles/Bucklese or whatever it is, so perhaps there is some even older wording covered over!I need the CSI team to solve this!

liits · Post by **liits** » Wed 31 Aug, 2011 7:53 pm

I bit of supposition here.....Back Greek Street – I wonder if Back Greek Street is the area outlined on the map in red. It was access able from Greek Street and also from Bedford Street by a covered alley. On the 1890 map, this area between the buildings doesn’t seem to run for the full length of the block and yet behind the present building and possible previous ones, there does seem to be a yard of some description.The map is from 1890 and the building doesn’t appear as a whole on it. The areal shot from Google Earth is taken from a slight angle so overlaying the map may be a bit off but it definitely doesn’t show just a single building on the site, but an overlap from another adjoining building, too. Outlined in blue is the building in Leodian’s photograph. Maybe what Chameleon says about the objects over the doors & windows is correct.How’s that for muddying the waters!

liits · Post by **liits** » Wed 31 Aug, 2011 7:54 pm

Oops, forgot the picture.

liits · Post by **liits** » Wed 31 Aug, 2011 8:11 pm

More conjecture.....A shot of an older map [1850’s] again shows the large yard, marked in red, between Greek Street & Bedford Street – possibly Back Greek Street?Also, the area where I believe this building to be is shown as a vacant plot which would be square in shape if it wasn’t for a piece of the adjoining building jutting out. I reckon that this is still the same piece that shoes up on the 1890 map.And the street name is shown as Bedford Street.

LS1 · Post by **LS1** » Wed 31 Aug, 2011 11:31 pm

liits wrote: More conjecture.....A shot of an older map [1850’s] again shows the large yard, marked in red, between Greek Street & Bedford Street – possibly Back Greek Street?Also, the area where I believe this building to be is shown as a vacant plot which would be square in shape if it wasn’t for a piece of the adjoining building jutting out. I reckon that this is still the same piece that shoes up on the 1890 map.And the street name is shown as Bedford Street. I'm not so sure liits, I think it may just be yards that are accessable from either street and this is what we see.In times gone by I think Bedford street was possibly more important than it is nowadays. I never see anyone on it and there are no shops or many offices on there. It's a bit dingy there tbh.

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Thu 01 Sep, 2011 12:03 am

I agree that Bedford Street is not one of the best looking streets but there are some nice bits in it. This photo that I took on August 30 2011 shows the nice ornamental doorway of the District Bank Chambers that is on the other side of Bedford Street almost opposite the 1854 building. I wonder when the District Bank was operating?