Leeds lost pubs

Post by **chameleon** » Tue 22 Mar, 2011 5:56 pm

moved to this existing thread on the topic:robontheroadUser Location: Leeds UKJoined on: 18-Jun-2008 21:18:42Posted: 25 posts # Posted on: 22-Mar-2011 13:21:14. Edit | Quote Victoria at Drighlington has just closedPainters closed now for nearly Six monthsNew Inn as above but reopened for a week

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Sun 17 Apr, 2011 9:28 pm

all the signage has been taken down from the 'Hark To Rover' and it is being offered as three shop units - ironic as I believe the building was originally a parade of shops.

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Sun 17 Apr, 2011 11:04 pm

The Woodman at Halton is "open as usual" despite being in the process of considerable smartening up externally. Passing there again a few days later, its now very nicely painted all over in a pleasing light cream and has grand new signboards in maroon with gold lettering - a massive improvement in external appearance.

skotbites · Post by **skotbites** » Wed 20 Apr, 2011 1:25 am

raveydavey wrote: tyke bhoy wrote: Chrism wrote: The New Inn on Dewsbury Roadhttp://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/Pol ... 1396.jpWhy would a pub want a 5am licence? And what were the boys in Blue about 200 yards away at City and Holbeck Divisional HQ doing not to notice that it was serving to 5.00am. Of course pubs near markets used to open before then to serve the Porters their breakfast of Porter ale much more likely to see them finish a shift in good health than drinking the local water at that time.Several things surprise me though. Most notably that the pub is also only two hundred yards from a fire station and there isn't much residential property immediately adjacent so who was suffering sleep deprivation through the pub alone. There was reference to a lot of trouble in the car park, which is presumably at the rear of the pub - and must be surrounded by houses.It's a shame to see the powers that be using the sledgehammer of a closure order rather than addressing the actual problems.All a closure order does is move the trouble elsewhere, as we've all seen many times before. After spending days viewing and reading through this forum and in particular this fascinating thread, I've eventually joined.The New Inn on Dewsbury road was horrendous during the above period. I used to spend some time at a friends opposite and the fighting was really bad and it was every night and up until 5am and sometimes after. Police cars would go flying by from Holbeck station to whatever call they were attending but it was rare they turned up at the pub. Since it reopened after the closure it seems to have settled somewhat.Also I think was mentioned at one point, The Old Golden Fleece in Churwell, was indeed knocked down and the Tesco Express will open in a week or so. Happy to see they've kept the sign up and also a tiled mosaic on the side of the building.Got a few pics to add also....One I don't recall seeing any mention or pics of is The Belle Isle.

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Wed 20 Apr, 2011 5:36 pm

thanks for the pics skotbites. you,re right about the Belle Isle, iwas only thinking about that the other day. there,s a pic of it on Leodis but we ought to get a pic of the building as it is now

RaggyTash · Post by **RaggyTash** » Wed 20 Apr, 2011 7:31 pm

skotbites wrote: raveydavey wrote: tyke bhoy wrote: Chrism wrote: The New Inn on Dewsbury Roadhttp://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/Pol ... 1396.jpWhy would a pub want a 5am licence? And what were the boys in Blue about 200 yards away at City and Holbeck Divisional HQ doing not to notice that it was serving to 5.00am. Of course pubs near markets used to open before then to serve the Porters their breakfast of Porter ale much more likely to see them finish a shift in good health than drinking the local water at that time.Several things surprise me though. Most notably that the pub is also only two hundred yards from a fire station and there isn't much residential property immediately adjacent so who was suffering sleep deprivation through the pub alone. There was reference to a lot of trouble in the car park, which is presumably at the rear of the pub - and must be surrounded by houses.It's a shame to see the powers that be using the sledgehammer of a closure order rather than addressing the actual problems.All a closure order does is move the trouble elsewhere, as we've all seen many times before. After spending days viewing and reading through this forum and in particular this fascinating thread, I've eventually joined.The New Inn on Dewsbury road was horrendous during the above period. I used to spend some time at a friends opposite and the fighting was really bad and it was every night and up until 5am and sometimes after. Police cars would go flying by from Holbeck station to whatever call they were attending but it was rare they turned up at the pub. Since it reopened after the closure it seems to have settled somewhat.Also I think was mentioned at one point, The Old Golden Fleece in Churwell, was indeed knocked down and the Tesco Express will open in a week or so. Happy to see they've kept the sign up and also a tiled mosaic on the side of the building.Got a few pics to add also....One I don't recall seeing any mention or pics of is The Belle Isle. Nice to see a pic of The Albion,but I didnt know it was shut down..Ive only ever been in the place once and Ive happy memories of a thriving atmosphere that the place once held,it was one of the "Many" pubs that we visited on my youger Brother`s Stag-Do..except,I didnt want to leave there once I got settled in..the place kind of put its arms around you..plus,I was beating everyone at pool Thanks for the memory m8.

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Sat 23 Apr, 2011 9:13 pm

The Malt (shovel) in Burley in wharfedale is closed with metal shutters up. a sad sight for this magnificent old building, I hope its only temporary

skotbites · Post by **skotbites** » Sat 23 Apr, 2011 11:34 pm

Quick pic of the New Tesco Express/Old Golden Fleece sign I'll get a better one when I have my camera with me rather than my phone.Well I will when I can figure out how to attach them here.......

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Sun 24 Apr, 2011 12:46 am

drapesy wrote: The Malt (shovel) in Burley in wharfedale is closed with metal shutters up. a sad sight for this magnificent old building, I hope its only temporary The place seems to have an unlucky history - its changed hands many times in the last fifty years or so. While it is indeed a lovely old building I've always felt that it was "gaunt" and lacking atmosphere inside. It would have been an ideal place for Wetherspoons to revitalise - about the right size, and with plenty of parking space already there.

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Fri 29 Apr, 2011 5:07 pm

Another one destined for the list:http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 1_3332365A TROUBLESPOT Leeds pub has been ordered to close after failing in a bid to keep its licence.Leeds City Council revoked the licence of the Streets of Leeds in Roundhay last July after hearing details from police of criminal activity linked to the premises.However, the pub was allowed to remain open pending an appeal against the council’s decision.Now, though, that appeal has been dismissed by magistrates in Leeds, forcing the Street Lane-based pub to shut.The court ruling was welcomed today by John Mulcahy, head of licensing and registration for the city council.He told the Yorkshire Evening Post: “This is a great result for the council and upholds the original decision of our licensing sub-committee to revoke this licence.“This continues to prove how well our enforcement and licensing teams work with the police and other responsible authorities to ensure premises are operating lawfully.”Last July’s licensing sub-committee meeting was given details of a rise in the number of assaults and drug-related offences “in the vicinity” of the Streets of Leeds.A raid on the pub had also uncovered quantities of what were believed to be crack cocaine and cannabis, said police.Random drug swabs, meanwhile, had provided a “clear indication” of the presence of cocaine in both the ladies and gents toilets.Police presented further evidence showing the pub had twice been caught selling alcohol to young people during checks on its efforts to prevent underage drinking.The Streets of Leeds previously hit the headlines when violence erupted during its New Year’s Eve celebrations of 2006.Innocent drinkers were left injured and terrified as a gang of thugs smashed glasses and threw chairs indiscriminately around the bar.Four men were later jailed for their part in the mayhem.Now, I'm an uninformed observer with no particular knowledge on the subject. However, it seems to me that if you shut down a "problem" pub, all it does is shift the problem elsewhere. It's a situation that is repeated time and time again across the city. The people actually causing the problems simply move on elsewhere. It happened when The Trotters shut, it happened when The Hayfield was closed and all that happened is other pubs end up with the problem and in many cases they end up closing too - and the problem clientèle simply move on again repeating the whole sorry cycle. It might provide a temporary respite for those living in the immediate area but it doesn't address the core issues.Closing the pub by withdrawing the licence is unfortunately the cheap and easy option, which is why it no doubt keeps getting used. Surely a better option would be for the police to enforce the law and for the courts to lock up the people causing the problems?