Pine Apple Inn, Quarry Hill

[Si]

And thirdly, a map from 1936 showing extensive demolition in the area.    

[Si]

There's also a couple of plans of Quarry Hill Flats.This is an early rendition from 1934, before building commenced.

[Si]

And another, unfortunately undated. They are very slightly different.I wonder if it's possible to overlay this on the 1847 map?    

[Si]

I found a good aerial photo of the Quarry Hill area, cleared and ready for the construction of the flats - some of the foundations have been dug. There's very little evidence of the previous street plan, never mind the Roman camp! Photographed on the 16th July 1937. Image from Leodis.PS Skulls head yard (Crown Court) visible bottom, right of centre!        

[Si]

Estimated position of High Street.

[Si]

This is just a few doors down hill from the Pine Apple.Leodis caption:"Undated, Leeds had several areas with curative waters, famous in their time. This one in the Quarry Hill area was thought to have been regularly visited by Leeds historian Ralph Thoresby. The first bath to be built was the work of MP David Urquhart and his Manchester Foreign Affairs committee in 1857. The following year two members of Leeds Foreign Affairs Committee opened a Turkish Bath on this site. It was one of the first ten Victorian Turkish Baths in England. It was extended back to gain frontage at number 4 High Street. In 1870 it was named St Peter's Turkish Bath, then in 1876 the new proprietor, Tom Mountain renamed it St Peter's Spa. It was lost when the area was redeveloped. By the 1930s Quarry Hill Flats were being erected on this site. In this view, a pillaried entrance has been added to the baths. Signs advertise 'Working Men 6d, Don't Forget St Peter's Russian and Turkish Baths'. The baths occupy the upper floor above the corner shop."This would seem to suggest that the numbering of High Street was mucked about with, as well as proving that some back-to-back properties were knocked through. On the 1847 map, the yard behind this building is marked "spa pump." Seems dodgy to say the least, having a spa in an area notorious for it's cholera outbreaks!    

[Cardiarms]

Si wrote: Estimated position of High Street. Tsk, I think you may be two degrees out there.

[Cardiarms]

Si wrote: This is just a few doors down hill from the Pine Apple.Leodis caption:"Undated, Leeds had several areas with curative waters, famous in their time. This one in the Quarry Hill area was thought to have been regularly visited by Leeds historian Ralph Thoresby. The first bath to be built was the work of MP David Urquhart and his Manchester Foreign Affairs committee in 1857. The following year two members of Leeds Foreign Affairs Committee opened a Turkish Bath on this site. It was one of the first ten Victorian Turkish Baths in England. It was extended back to gain frontage at number 4 High Street. In 1870 it was named St Peter's Turkish Bath, then in 1876 the new proprietor, Tom Mountain renamed it St Peter's Spa. It was lost when the area was redeveloped. By the 1930s Quarry Hill Flats were being erected on this site. In this view, a pillaried entrance has been added to the baths. Signs advertise 'Working Men 6d, Don't Forget St Peter's Russian and Turkish Baths'. The baths occupy the upper floor above the corner shop."This would seem to suggest that the numbering of High Street was mucked about with, as well as proving that some back-to-back properties were knocked through. On the 1847 map, the yard behind this building is marked "spa pump." Seems dodgy to say the least, having a spa in an area notorious for it's cholera outbreaks!     It's notable that many civic baths, right up to the International Pool included Turkish and Russian baths, i think bramley baths still has a Russian steam room, maybe wrong. Why did they fall out favour in the 70's? Even the Gemini Sauna down by Kirkstall Lights has closed, oh..different sort of thing....

[grumpytramp]

SiI was having a root about the online resource at British Newspapers and have stumbled on this might be of interest one about Joseph Glendinning and one about the condition of the Pine Apple Inn: Leeds Mercury, November 2nd, 1896 Quote: ALLEGED ASSUALT ON A LEEDS LANDLORD - At Leeds Town Hall on Saturday. Paul Madden (28 ) of 9 Somerset Street was charged before Mr. F. R. Spark and Mr Flinch with having unlawfully wounded Joseph Glendinning, the landlord of the Pine Apple Inn, High Street. Mr Arthur Willey(?) prosecuted. It appears that the defendant went to the Pine Apple Inn caused a disturbance and when asked to be quiet struck the complainant on the head with a pint pot. As a result of the blow Mr Glendinning was unconscious for three days, and for a time his life was in danger. In (response?) to the prisoner, Mr Glendinning said he did not think that there was any wilful intention on the part of Madden to cause a serious injury - Defendant was commited to take his trial at the Sessions, bail was allowed in two sureties of £15 each Leeds Mercury, July 16th, 1896Reports on the worings of the parliamentary select committee engaged in considering the Local Government Provisional Orders (Housing of the Working Classes) Bill specifically concentrating on investigating the "Leeds Provision 1" order, The Leeds Insanitory Area. The Mercury reports on the examination (questioning) of Dr James Spottiswoode Cameron, Medical Officer of Health for Leeds describing the outbreak of typhus in the area of Leeds proposed for slum clearance Quote: The houses are mostly back-to-back houses, the residents having little means of getting fresh air. The mortaility taken for the three years from 1893 to 1895 in this district, was 90% higher than that of the rest of the city. In his judgement the whole of the area was properly described as an insanitory area. It was a district just such as contemplated by the Housing of the Working Class Bill. The present scheme was a well considered one, and onee which it would be well to pass. He was acquainted with the Pine Apple Inn, which faced High Street and baccked on Back High Street. The place was poorly ventilated and it would be impossible to leave the public-house standing. It asssisted in placing the area in an unsanitory condition. This appears to be appeal by four local publicans about the loss of their licences if the area was cleared as Dr Cameron goes on: Quote: The same could be said of the King's Arms which faced St Peters Sqaure, the Red House Inn and the Yorkshire Hussar Inn. There were 15 public-houses in the area, and if those he had named wre exempted from this scheme, there was no reason why the others should be exempted Sounds lovely     

[Si]

Cardiarms wrote: Si wrote: Estimated position of High Street. Tsk, I think you may be two degrees out there. One tries one's best, Cardi.