Scarbrough's Hotel

[harehills-steve]

This may help, on the Tracks in Time Tithe Map Project you can get the os for 1890 and 1910 which show what happened, and it looks like what jim says is correct (if i'm understanding correctly).

[liits]

The 1847 / 63 combo.

[cnosni]

liits wrote: The 1847 / 63 combo. Well done that man!!hangover over?BTW which,if any,is the 3 storey white building

[liits]

cnosni wrote: liits wrote: The 1847 / 63 combo. Well done that man!!hangover over?BTW which,if any,is the 3 storey white building I'll put the 1906 map up then I want to try something with google earth and the 1847 map to pinpoint the white building but I'd like the link to the original Leodis pic [as shown on page10 [not the link to page 10]] I've looked through Leodis and can't find it. I think Cardiarms posted the photo originally.    

[liits]

1906, not the best quality scan ever!

[chemimike]

Here is the link you want http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... 0_98154849

[jim]

Liits, thanks again.Cnosni, the white building did not exist in 1863, indeed the north end of Neville Street was completely altered, probably when Leeds New Station was built in1869, or when it was altered by 1879. (Incidently,I would be very grateful if anyone could tell me exactly what those alterations comprised, I haven't the faintest!)To see what I mean, look at the north end of Neville Street on the 1847 map that Liits has kindly posted for us. At it's junction with Sandford Street the road narrows severely to cross School Close Bridge, and then meet Bishopgate Street. Presumably (I'm guessing, but I think the maps bear me out) when the act for the station was sought the Corporation would have demanded a rail overbridge capable of taking a widened road, and reconstruction of Neville Street to it's full width from end to end.If one subtends the west side building line of Neville Street in a northerly direction (on the 1847 map) until it reaches the final "t" in Bishopgate Street, and then "rounds off" the obtuse angle created with the west side of Bishopgate Street, the situation pertaining oin the 1906 map (and to the present day) is reached.For the white building's site, it is the curved sided building immediately to the south east of the old Queens Hotel on the 1906 map, and on a 1:500 1910 map I have is described as a Parcels Office.

[jim]

Oops again, neglected to mention that at some time between 1891 and 1906 the old Queens Hotel was extended to it's south-east, creating a "now you see it, now you don't" situation.The white end of the building reappeared when the old hotel was demolished to make way for it's re-sited replacement in the mid 1930s.

[Cardiarms]

My hunch is that Neville Street was raised as part of this redevelopement to allow the rerouted goit to pass under it in a tunnel big enough to drive a transit van through.As mentioned on the Flares thread, a picture of scool close bridge would be a gem.

[liits]

I know it’s not good practice to use information from different dates as absolute fact but here goes....To the greater extent, I’m inclined to agree with Jim that the white building is behind the Queens Hotel.The original picture showing the white building was – I recon – taken from the second floor of the old Norwich Union building on the north side of City Square. The extreme right hand side of the picture sees the General Post Office.[and this is where I start mixing differently dated sources] on an 1930’s aerial photo of City Square I’ve drawn what I think is the field of view of the original photo[not the best copy of a photo and low resolution]. I’m guessing [and mixing sources again] that the building I’ve marked with an arrow is the same building marked with an arrow on the map and, if correct, not the old Sacarbrough’s Hotel.Discuss.