Leeds lost pubs

[Trojan]

simonm wrote: Reet. Sorry if this has been answered, but I can't find it if it has. This is the question about the pubs on Elland Rd called the Peacock and their ownership by BYB and the also the ownership of the football ground.Has anyone any ideas of what the peacock association is about, regarding the pubs and the original ground name and also which pub was the first to be built I know the present pub is called the old peacock and I think this relates to the very first on on the site. however, the new peacock was demolished in the 70's to make way for the building of the motorway. So, there must have been a (plain and simple) Peacock which predated BOTH.The football ground was built on the old playing fields, called the Peacock playing fields and the land belonged to BYB breweries. Does anyone have a definitive history of the area?Cheers in advance. Ps, the old ground, pre LUAFC ownership was along ER and not as is presently at 90 degrees to it.     There were certainly two pubs on Elland Road, the Old and New Peacock. And they were BYB houses, there was also a cricket field on the corner of Lowfields Road and Elland Road.I've often wondered if LUAFC's old nickname -"The Peacocks" was because of the pubs - or because of the old LU strip of blue and old gold. Were the pubs called after the team or was the team called after the pubs? And had shirts designed accordingly? Bearing in mind of course the Leeds RL play in roughly the same colours.

[simonm]

Not sure if the nickname "the Peacocks" comes from the fact of the pubs bearing the name, or that fact that the present football ground is build on Land that was called "Peacock recreational gorunds", before the name "Elland Rd" was adopted?

[Cardiarms]

That's what i thought. Various clubs and sports were played at the 'Old Peacock' ground before football and Leeds City took over. I've never heard that the ground was formally renamed though. There's probably some old traditionalists who still refer to the Old Peacock Ground rather than Elland Road.

[Cardiarms]

As an aside, the first Leeds FC played at the 'Star and Garter' ground in Kirkstall. They only lasted a few years though.

[Si]

Trojan wrote: simonm wrote: Reet. Sorry if this has been answered, but I can't find it if it has. This is the question about the pubs on Elland Rd called the Peacock and their ownership by BYB and the also the ownership of the football ground.Has anyone any ideas of what the peacock association is about, regarding the pubs and the original ground name and also which pub was the first to be built I know the present pub is called the old peacock and I think this relates to the very first on on the site. however, the new peacock was demolished in the 70's to make way for the building of the motorway. So, there must have been a (plain and simple) Peacock which predated BOTH.The football ground was built on the old playing fields, called the Peacock playing fields and the land belonged to BYB breweries. Does anyone have a definitive history of the area?Cheers in advance. Ps, the old ground, pre LUAFC ownership was along ER and not as is presently at 90 degrees to it.     There were certainly two pubs on Elland Road, the Old and New Peacock. And they were BYB houses, there was also a cricket field on the corner of Lowfields Road and Elland Road.I've often wondered if LUAFC's old nickname -"The Peacocks" was because of the pubs - or because of the old LU strip of blue and old gold. Were the pubs called after the team or was the team called after the pubs? And had shirts designed accordingly? Bearing in mind of course the Leeds RL play in roughly the same colours. The story I heard was that the nickname "The Peacocks" came from the pub, and not the other way round. The blue and gold come from the Leeds coat-of-arms.PS The picture I posted on the "Springfield" thread of my great grandad playing cricket was taken on the Lowfields Road ground.        

[uncle mick]

simonm wrote: Reet. Sorry if this has been answered, but I can't find it if it has. This is the question about the pubs on Elland Rd called the Peacock and their ownership by BYB and the also the ownership of the football ground.Has anyone any ideas of what the peacock association is about, regarding the pubs and the original ground name and also which pub was the first to be built I know the present pub is called the old peacock and I think this relates to the very first on on the site. however, the new peacock was demolished in the 70's to make way for the building of the motorway. So, there must have been a (plain and simple) Peacock which predated BOTH.The football ground was built on the old playing fields, called the Peacock playing fields and the land belonged to BYB breweries. Does anyone have a definitive history of the area?Cheers in advance. Ps, the old ground, pre LUAFC ownership was along ER and not as is presently at 90 degrees to it.     Not a lot of help but both the New Peacock and the Old Peacock are listed in the 1872 directory.Neither the New or Old or just "Peacock" are listed in the 1853 directory,but this does not mean they were not there. There are hundreds of "Beerhouses" listed with just the name of the landlord and no pub name So the nickname came from the pubs not the other way round    

[chemimike]

The 1854 map at http://www.british-history.ac.uk/mapshe ... =551&y=272 does seem to show a small area of unmarked buildings exactly in the place where they show on the 1908 map marked Old Peacock (P.H), just a short distance down the road from Islington.The 1838 west riding directory (Whites) lists (in Beeston ) the following: Bradley Wm. maltster& vict.Peacock Inn, Islington. My guess would be that this is the same as the Old Peacock which seems to be marked, but not named, on the 1854 map    

[tilly]

drapesy wrote: Looks like its curtains for the Junction on Dewsbury Road - all the inside fittings have been ripped out so looks like it will never reopen as a pub. Inside the pub, mounted above the bar, were parts of some of the earlier stained glass windows - including signs saying 'Junction hotel', 'Smoke room' etc and at least 2 Melbourne 'courtiers'. These irreplaceable artefacts have been ripped out, smashed up and are now dumped in a skip at the back of the pub.2 'courtiers' remain in the windows outside- but there time is probably now very short. I bet they were after the lead in the fittings. What a shame mind you it shows you how thick they are the whole fitting would be worth a lot more than the lead.The trouble with some people now is things like this do not mean J/S to them only from a money point of view.Just shows what kind of a society we live in.I have known the the Junky since i was knee high walked past it on the way to school.It might sound daft but its like part of my life has gone must say not a lot of my past is left to see now.Rose tinted glasses but its better than wearing a blind fold.    

[drapesy]

Si wrote: drapesy wrote: Looks like its curtains for the Junction on Dewsbury Road - all the inside fittings have been ripped out so looks like it will never reopen as a pub. Inside the pub, mounted above the bar, were parts of some of the earlier stained glass windows - including signs saying 'Junction hotel', 'Smoke room' etc and at least 2 Melbourne 'courtiers'. These irreplaceable artefacts have been ripped out, smashed up and are now dumped in a skip at the back of the pub.2 'courtiers' remain in the windows outside- but there time is probably now very short. Is there nothing worth saving in the skip, Drapesy? Or are you restoring the windows yourself? No nothing - it all looks to have been smashed to bits

[Si]

drapesy wrote: Si wrote: drapesy wrote: Looks like its curtains for the Junction on Dewsbury Road - all the inside fittings have been ripped out so looks like it will never reopen as a pub. Inside the pub, mounted above the bar, were parts of some of the earlier stained glass windows - including signs saying 'Junction hotel', 'Smoke room' etc and at least 2 Melbourne 'courtiers'. These irreplaceable artefacts have been ripped out, smashed up and are now dumped in a skip at the back of the pub.2 'courtiers' remain in the windows outside- but there time is probably now very short. Is there nothing worth saving in the skip, Drapesy? Or are you restoring the windows yourself? No nothing - it all looks to have been smashed to bits Bloody 'Ell! And now the Fountain Head mirror's gone too.PS Tillydowner - brilliant quote! "Rose-tinted spectacles are better than a blindfold." You should be a writer!