Pubs on Harehills Lane

[drapesy]

magic wrote: I have never been in so not quite sure but is the Starlight facing the site of the Shaftesbury classed as a pub & more to the point is it still open???? Debatable whether it was a pub - more of a club really, but its closed now anyway.

[Johnny39]

wilfbarr wrote: wilfbarr i think their was a pub on harehills lane just by harehills park their was a picture house and next to it a pub cant remember the cinema name though it could have been the cemeteries it was half way between the shaftsbury and the compton     I think you are thinking of the "Hillcrest" cinema and the pub was "The Brown Hare".

[gbdlufc]

Tomel wrote: The triangle of Harehills Road, Roundhay Road and Bayswater Road contains no pubs at all. It was said to have originally been church land and was only sold on by the church, for housing and businesses, with the proviso that there was to be no Public Houses ever built on it.     Interesting, I never knew that and Im Harehills born and bred. But this never included off licenses obvously.

[Chrism]

I've said this on another thread, is Chapeltown the only area of Leeds to have NO pubs at all, well not legal establishments anyway.

[drapesy]

Chrism wrote: I've said this on another thread, is Chapeltown the only area of Leeds to have NO pubs at all, well not legal establishments anyway. It depends what you call 'Chapeltown' of course - but the area most would recognise as Chapeltown (i.e not Sheepscar or Harehills or Chapel Allerton) only ever had two to my knowledge- the Hayfield and the Scott Hall , both demolished several years ago    

[Catweazle]

Possibly Gledhow has now joined Chapeltown as a district of Leeds with no pubs at all since that place on the council estate (surely the poshest council estate in Leeds if only for its location!)there shut down a couple of years ago.Re: the mention of church land forbidding the opening of pubs in an area up thread I can only imagine that must have been Methodist land as the Church of England with its ties to the establishment/Tory party/brewers were never to my knowlege against alcohol. But paradoxically with the Methodists being so strong in working class areas and especially in areas like Yorkshire and Lancashire it does seem to make sense but did they ever have the money to own vast tracts of land. The Methodists (I come from a Methodist family so know a bit about them) along with the Salvation Army were both committed to alleviating social hardship and were therefore anti-booze so maybe there's a bit of truth in it.Indeed I know that in Sheffield the once draconian licensing laws were a direct result of the Methodists dominating Sheffield council for decades (Sheffield socialism being founded on "Methodism not Marxism" as they used to say) and someone told me that as recently as the mid-late 90s the lack of late night licenses compared to other comoparable cities was a relic of that ethos long after the Methodism domination had waned.

[liits]

Carlisle also had its own odd system. The State management of its pubs prevented all sorts of things. No buying of rounds, pubs closed on Sundays [later changed] no spirits sold on Saturdays and all sorts of other oddities. My Ex came from a village in Northern Ireland which had been set up by Quakers who owned the linen mill, built the houses but had no pubs, the nearest being in Newry. Even after the Quakers have long gone, there are still no pubs and the two local shops don’t sell alcohol.

[dogduke]

I believe the state ownershp of pubs in Carlisle was to prevent absenteeism in the munition workers.The pubs were state owned I think until the mid sixtiesI remember visiting there in the early sixties and it was like boozing in an old fashioned doctor's waiting room,very drab and scared you might catch something.

[drapesy]

dogduke wrote: I believe the state ownershp of pubs in Carlisle was to prevent absenteeism in the munition workers.The pubs were state owned I think until the mid sixtiesI remember visiting there in the early sixties and it was like boozing in an old fashioned doctor's waiting room,very drab and scared you might catch something. At some stage (70s?) Theakston's of Masham , when they were independent, took over the former state owned brewery at Carlisle. I think they used it to brew bitter (and poss XB) whilst mild and Old Peculier were brewed at the original brewery in Masham

[yorkiesknob]

No pubs or lack of them in the Burley area.If you make a circle from the Cardigan then to the Haddon, Westend,the Duttons [closed]. Then onto the Skyrack say, Royal park ,Rising Sun and back to the Cardigan. Only a rough out line and I welcome any corrections,Ie Merry Monk,60s pub.I know when the Beechwoods and Lumleys were built the developer had a restriction over him not to build and public houses on the land.Seems quite a large area without a pub.In the 70s my locals were the Haddon,Burley Con club and the Duttons.Now when I visit Leeds Its always the Cardigan,the Geogre before it closed.Milford sports,Headingly Pubs [all] and the Queenswood social club Sunday lunch time with my parents.