The neverending creep of Tesco

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Mon 07 Dec, 2009 4:14 pm

As a working dad, I seem to be able to manage to pop into the market each week for fruit, veg, meat and fish, while working mum and family does other stuff and one, or all, of us manage to take advantage of near 24 hour availability of supermarkets during the rest of the week for dry goods and houshold stuff. It works, its painless and it's nowhere near £100(QED!). It's not right for everyone, mix and match. Most people shop by habit, even down to buying the same things week in week out.

Reginal Perrin · Post by **Reginal Perrin** » Mon 07 Dec, 2009 4:20 pm

simonm wrote: Shopping still cheaper AND better quality in Leeds market to that of any of the big 5! Fact. You seem to have a bit of a bee in your bonnet Reggie. You don't happen to work for or have shares in said "supermarket Giant" do you? Each to their own No I don't and indeed each to their own and the vast majority vote with their feet for many of the reasons stated. I love the market on the whole, spent a lot of time in it as a kid, got lost in a bomb scare when three years old and we did do the Saturday morning schlepp into town with our mum. No one does that now, no mother will want to go to Leeds market when they can go to the local supermarket. They have to go to the supermarket anyway to gett he rest of the shopping they couldn't carry so why do two trips when the product is almost interchangeable? You may say the quality is far better and to some that may mean they make that extra effort, hopefully enough to keep them in business.I think in particular we should be a bit more proud of the likes of Asda (Leeds) and Morrisons (Bradford) for the success they have had and the jobs they provide in our area. I realise people don't like success but these companies give people exactly what they want.

stutterdog · Post by **stutterdog** » Mon 07 Dec, 2009 4:21 pm

simonm wrote: Shopping still cheaper AND better quality in Leeds market to that of any of the big 5! Fact. You seem to have a bit of a bee in your bonnet Reggie. You don't happen to work for or have shares in said "supermarket Giant" do you? Each to their own Hi Simonm, I probably would agree with you re the cost of produce in Leeds market,but would you really fancy carrying 6 carrier bags on the 16 bus and then carrying them home from the bus stop to your house? I'll be very surprised if you sy you would! I think Reggie has outlined the pro and cons very well and I tend to agree with him on this and since I retired I can't afford to buy meat at the High St butchers.

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Mon 07 Dec, 2009 4:33 pm

The trolley is the big issue for most people now who do the 'weekly shop', especially when a small daily shop isn't practical. I wouldn't suggest someone on their own should attempt to carry a weeks shopping for a family of four themselves. I think it's wrong to suggest the market is inconvenient or entirley inaccessible when it's next to the bus station and surrounded (for now) by car parks, and town, which is thronging with thousands of people.

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Mon 07 Dec, 2009 4:36 pm

Good Lord! Could you imagine the council making trolleys and convenient parking available as part of the proposed redevelopment?

Reginal Perrin · Post by **Reginal Perrin** » Mon 07 Dec, 2009 4:51 pm

Cardiarms wrote: The trolley is the big issue for most people now who do the 'weekly shop', especially when a small daily shop isn't practical. I wouldn't suggest someone on their own should attempt to carry a weeks shopping for a family of four themselves. I think it's wrong to suggest the market is inconvenient or entirley inaccessible when it's next to the bus station and surrounded (for now) by car parks, and town, which is thronging with thousands of people. Cardi, to get the bus into Leeds form any suburb it will be at least £4 return (for one person), it is just not practical to suggest that a mother with kids would do this in this day and age for the saving they could make on maybe 1/3 of their shop, nor would they drive past a supermarket with free parking to pay to park in a multi-storey and lug bags from shop to shop and back to a car.My hope is that the market can still attract enough people to survive in some for or other, I think it needs to chnage personally.I think the American system of validating free parking through purchase over a certain value is a good system so long as no-one does a Ned Flanders.Maybe half the outdoor market could be attraced indoors if the stalls were made dailies instead of lock ups. The outdoor market then could be developed a bit, maybe a bit of the German Market feel to it, more food stalls maybe.

Reginal Perrin · Post by **Reginal Perrin** » Mon 07 Dec, 2009 4:55 pm

Cardiarms wrote: Good Lord! Could you imagine the council making trolleys and convenient parking available as part of the proposed redevelopment? "Hilarious" young revellers would ride them to the river and chuck them in.

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Mon 07 Dec, 2009 5:15 pm

I agree the bus is not the best choice and wouldn't do it myself. You keep saying that no-one will go to the market anymore because of the other choices, I go most Saturdays and it's packed but it's not for everyone and I don't expect it to be. What I don't want is for people who no longer use it to run it down because it's not for them. I use supermarkets, I use the market, I believe more people could use the market (and markets in general) but are not in the habit because their default is the supermarket, and they pay more for it. As for trolleys, the supermarkets seem to have a ways of managing retention nowadays, just an idea.

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Mon 07 Dec, 2009 5:20 pm

Reginal Perrin wrote: I think the American system of validating free parking through purchase over a certain value is a good system so long as no-one does a Ned Flanders. Morrisons do this at Pontefract.

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Mon 07 Dec, 2009 5:23 pm

And the Merrion Centre. In other stores they offer money of thier own petrol.