The neverending creep of Tesco

[raveydavey]

weenie wrote: was these cellars not filled in, were they just built over??? i remember when they were doing the bus lane down by Gyratory just end Tong Rd, they found and left the old cellers there too for a while? Quite - same problem up by the uni / multi storey car park around Otley Road a couple of years ago. Back to back "slums" cleared for the roadbuilding programme of the 60's and only a quick covering put over some of the cellars there too - several of which collapsed a few years ago, leaving big holes in the road. Oops!

[Reginal Perrin]

I'm not quite sure why people have such an issue with supermarkets. Surely no-one is prepared to spend two hours shopping in a high street with a whicker shopping basket queuing at each shop not knowing if they have what they need or getting the worst stuff late in he morning.Supermarkets deliver exactly what people want and demand 9hence their success). We have just had a brand new Morribogs open in Rothwell and itis a pleasure to shop in. I remember some of the shops in the high street that people harp back to and they were poor quality.In terms of the local economy, Morrisons provides a few hundred jobs to local people not just keeping a dozen or so shopkeepers in green fees and golf balls.It leaves other shops open for more interesting and innovative ventures, that could enrich a town far more than a "traditional" high street would. In Rothwell we still have a butcher, newsagents, bakers/cake shop, flower shop, curtain shop, chemists, clothes shops, Subway, too many bookies, hairdressers, Jack Fultons, etc. The majority seem to benefit from the footfall of Morribogs customers.

[raveydavey]

Reginal Perrin wrote: I'm not quite sure why people have such an issue with supermarkets. Surely no-one is prepared to spend two hours shopping in a high street with a whicker shopping basket queuing at each shop not knowing if they have what they need or getting the worst stuff late in he morning.Supermarkets deliver exactly what people want and demand 9hence their success). We have just had a brand new Morribogs open in Rothwell and itis a pleasure to shop in. I remember some of the shops in the high street that people harp back to and they were poor quality.In terms of the local economy, Morrisons provides a few hundred jobs to local people not just keeping a dozen or so shopkeepers in green fees and golf balls.It leaves other shops open for more interesting and innovative ventures, that could enrich a town far more than a "traditional" high street would. In Rothwell we still have a butcher, newsagents, bakers/cake shop, flower shop, curtain shop, chemists, clothes shops, Subway, too many bookies, hairdressers, Jack Fultons, etc. The majority seem to benefit from the footfall of Morribogs customers. I quite agree about spending all Saturday morning drudging around a dozen different shops, but for me it's the dominance these companies and Tesco in particular have achieved. Did you know that last year £1 out of every £8 spent on the "high street" was spent in Tesco?I've nothing against companies being succesful, but there need to be controls in place to stop them getting too powerful.You might like to view http://www.tescopoly.org/I don't like how they railroad things through planning - no-one wanted the petrol station at the bottom of Roundhay Road turning into a Tesco Express, but they forced it through anyway (after discreetly dropping plans until it had gone quiet), or the development of the former Seacroft Centre which included a pledge to refurbish Seacroft Grange to it's former glory which was reneged on once the store was built due to cleverly worded legalese. Or the fact that letters of support for the redevelopment of the Roundhay Road store into a Tesco Extra were submitted with the names and addresses of people who didn't support the application and who had never been to the store.It also gets my goat that other supermarkets are banned from opening branches near existing ones in the interest of allowing competition, yet Tesco seem to be able to open where and when they want. How does that work?

[weenie]

they could be secretly owned by the MI5/ new world order etc. mmm now there's a new thing a conspiracie on Tesco

[stutterdog]

weenie wrote: they could be secretly owned by the MI5/ new world order etc. mmm now there's a new thing a conspiracie on Tesco It's the neverending creep thats to blame!

[biggee99]

Reginal Perrin wrote: I'm not quite sure why people have such an issue with supermarkets. Surely no-one is prepared to spend two hours shopping in a high street with a whicker shopping basket queuing at each shop not knowing if they have what they need or getting the worst stuff late in he morning.Supermarkets deliver exactly what people want and demand 9hence their success). We have just had a brand new Morribogs open in Rothwell and itis a pleasure to shop in. I remember some of the shops in the high street that people harp back to and they were poor quality.In terms of the local economy, Morrisons provides a few hundred jobs to local people not just keeping a dozen or so shopkeepers in green fees and golf balls.It leaves other shops open for more interesting and innovative ventures, that could enrich a town far more than a "traditional" high street would. In Rothwell we still have a butcher, newsagents, bakers/cake shop, flower shop, curtain shop, chemists, clothes shops, Subway, too many bookies, hairdressers, Jack Fultons, etc. The majority seem to benefit from the footfall of Morribogs customers. Supermarkets are ok in the right place but when it clogs the roads up it bad news and in Halton the road is bad and kids ever whereand becomes un safe

[biggee99]

Tesco do what they want build where they want buy land put peolpe out of business if they get in the way so this must be right what, they own the councils and half the town.

[simonm]

Reggie, my comments on shops like Tesco's are obviously personal. However, look at Halton as a prime example. Instead of a bustling small area of small good quality shops such as butchers, bakers, etc. you have lidl, not 100 metres up the road is a co-op and now a prosposed Tescos over the road from that. What chance would a small retail outlet stand? A bit further out is the Killingbeck Asda and in the opposite direction is the Sainsbury's at colton? The standard of such companies food is negligable. Having served in a butchers after leaving school I am fully aware of what is good and not good in terms of meat. Asda (and im speaking from experience having worked in one during my mature uni days) take beasts that have been fed massive amounts of hormones and other growth inducing chemicals so that they have an animal that is very young but big enough to be slaughtered for food consumtion. The meat is then kept near freezing and passed to the supermarkets, where the larger stores actually butcher and package the product. The meat is tasteless and full of added water (which plumps it up and makes it look nice for those that have no idea what good meat should look OR taste like)Once that steak hits the pan, sizzle for a min then the water comes out and it freaking boils, instead of frying and then promptly shrinks to half it's original size! That way of producing such product is same for all the big supermarkets. Minimal cost maximum profits. Take a small butcher in the high street (not all, but you get to know the decent quality ones). Picks up decent product, that has been reared to it's full size and age on little but the natural stuff that it was intended for. Slaughtered and sent to the shop, where it is hung for several days in a fridge and the sold on. No water, no chemicals etc.Beef is an example of what goes on with ALL the meat products in a supermarket, and don't get me started on chickens!!!!!!!!What about fruit. Well, lets see, Instead of them marketing the BRITISH produce and a seasonal situation, we have the global shop in our midst. Spending on searching the world for produce that is available all year round. Strawberry's in winter, Asparagus in the winter months, salad at xmas. Did you know that the basic tomatoes in the big 5 are ALL chemically reddened? They are picked green (which is understandable) but then sprayed with chemicals to induce the red ripeness, no wonder they tast of bugger all.I could go on, but whats the point. So, now you know why I don't shop at such places. litterally killing the good quality local produce in favour of the mass profit of the ever expanding global shop.

[Trojan]

My daughter lives at Amesbury in Wiltshire, there is a retail park nearby called Solstice Park (it's near Stonehenge) Asda wanted to put a supermarket on this retail park, all the small traders in Amesbury favoured Asda because there would be a supermarket and that's all. But what have the council decided upon? A Tesco on a green fields site, and the Tesco will include many other small outlets inside their store, robbing the small traders in Amesbury of business. The question is why? If the residents and the small traders favoured Asda and Asda were willing to put their shop on a retail park why did the council choose Tesco? There must be a reason. I can only think of one.

[stutterdog]

Trojan wrote: My daughter lives at Amesbury in Wiltshire, there is a retail park nearby called Solstice Park (it's near Stonehenge) Asda wanted to put a supermarket on this retail park, all the small traders in Amesbury favoured Asda because there would be a supermarket and that's all. But what have the council decided upon? A Tesco on a green fields site, and the Tesco will include many other small outlets inside their store, robbing the small traders in Amesbury of business. The question is why? If the residents and the small traders favoured Asda and Asda were willing to put their shop on a retail park why did the council choose Tesco? There must be a reason. I can only think of one. Do you think there is something underhand going on down there then Trojan? What is this one reason for your suspicions you mention?