Millgarth Police Station 2nd Floor Front Office?

collywobbles · Post by **collywobbles** » Fri 27 Feb, 2009 5:59 pm

Thanks simonm, I was starting to think I'd been barking up the wrong tree all these years. The below links to leodis illustrate what I was describing on the original thread. On the first photo you can see the opening to the far left of the building on the second floor (just to the right of the glass covered staircase) This is where the gantry I mentioned comes to an abrupt halt which seems peculiar. Towards the centre of the building on a lower level can be seen a concrete walkway running from the right hand side. This appears to lead nowhere but inspection of an earlier photo (second link below) shows a doorway which has since been bricked up. http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... 515_166751

Post by **chameleon** » Fri 27 Feb, 2009 5:59 pm

Cardiarms wrote: OK I'll hold judgement but it the route is limited. It will have to go under the Queens Hotel and along Boar lane or straight up Park Row and right before or after Mill Hill Church. As there was a walkway with footings after Mill Hill it would most likely turn before and pass between Mill Hill and the Park Plaza. If it avoids the Queens hotel and goes direct to the station, under Bishopgate it will have to be very deep or on a significant slope. And there's still the issue of a 150 year old 15 inch Cat iron main that hasn't been moved. Not the sort of thing you dig under or over without due regard!Perhaps there is a stairwell in the Bond Street that goes down to the propsed level and through their basement but no further? That was my thought as the preferred route cardiarms, certainly at the Bond Street Centre end. That would take it towards the internal escalator conecting all levels - don't see there would be much scope to integrate any subway with the outside one.Big old pipe though, like you say, not to forget the other utilities and doubtless some equally old and large sewerage.

Post by **chameleon** » Fri 27 Feb, 2009 6:04 pm

cnosni wrote: Talking of the escalators on Albion Street.Theyre going,yes!!!!!!! Doesn't the plan for developing the Trinity site include covering/enclosing part of Albion Street next to it? That was certainly a proposal some years back. Mind if it becomes a 'closed centre, locked out of hours, I think there would be problems, Albion Street has to be seen as amajor pedestrian North/South thoroughfare at any time of the day.

Post by **chameleon** » Fri 27 Feb, 2009 6:07 pm

Has anyone else tried googling for this? Slim chance I know but, worth a try. Put in station boar lane subway. 'Spose I should have anticipated the result - nowt but shops selling ruddy sandwhiches!

Brandy · Post by **Brandy** » Fri 27 Feb, 2009 6:09 pm

Cardiarms wrote: That bridge and the Norwich Union building were really reall ugly.Anyway - here's meanwood/lady beck going under Milgarth: Well you learn something new every day!I always wondered why it was built on stilts.

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Fri 27 Feb, 2009 6:13 pm

chameleon wrote: Mind if it becomes a 'closed centre, locked out of hours, I think there would be problems, Albion Street has to be seen as amajor pedestrian North/South thoroughfare at any time of the day. Albion Street is part of the scheme according to their website but it doesn't make it clear what they're going to do.

collywobbles · Post by **collywobbles** » Fri 27 Feb, 2009 7:21 pm

The first link shows the front entrance to Millgarth as it is now. The second link shows the gantry at the rear of the station. You can just see an opening behind the flag pole where a future extension could have been added to the walkway http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... 2_15040224

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Sun 01 Mar, 2009 1:40 am

Also, under the Queens, down the side of Bishopgate is the service passages for the queens so the subway would have to be below that.I also had a mooch around the BHS basement/stair way and couldn't find anything going deeper.I did see a suspicious looking bloke doing something similar. Was I alone?

Post by **chameleon** » Mon 02 Mar, 2009 7:42 pm

Phill, rack yer brains - was he any more precise about the Bond Strret area, did he mean in the centre do you think, as far up as Bond Street (unlikely I supose) or could he have meant the side of the centre? And did he really mean from IN the dtation do you think, or just the station area?Notice today outside Wilko's new store doorway, large chamber with six lid sections within the nearness of the escalator to (now) nowhere. No 'distinguishing marks' on it either, not unique but not the norm. The only other ones I've seen this big have been underground substations.

simong · Post by **simong** » Tue 03 Mar, 2009 10:14 am

There is pretty good evidence for how the Bond Street centre was planned to be used in the buildings on the Albion Street side I think - those offices and shops under the centre look more like delivery entrances than shop fronts, and there has been at least one bar down there (the Mixing Tin) that was subterranean si I assume that the other fronts there are similar.