Non-LCT Buses that ran into Leeds

simong · Post by **simong** » Sat 10 Jan, 2009 9:57 am

Uno Hoo wrote: Wow! Quarter-hourly? Surely not all through to/from Ripon? ISTR a lot of the timings going only to Harrogate. Having expressed surprise, I believe TransDev still run the 36 to Ripon throughout on a frequent headway. They certainly do, with its own branded buses and indeed its own website (www.the36.co.uk) although that's down at the moment. Looking at the timetable on Metro's website there's a 20 minute headway in the daytime, which reduces to half an hour in the evening with the last few running hourly.

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Sat 10 Jan, 2009 6:55 pm

Trojan wrote: Trojan wrote: BLAKEY wrote: Trojan wrote: BLAKEY wrote: [ Another fascinating operation on service 36 (Mondays to Fridays) was the duplicate from Leeds at 5.15pm. This was worked by the East Yorkshire bus from Bridlington - during layover time - with a West Yorkshire conductor. A home made label was placed in the windscreen with the destination "ALWOODLEY + ROADS." I'm sure this little "extra treat" will have gone down like the proverbial lead balloon with the EYMS drivers !! I know you've explained this before, but whilst I can understand that United, West Yorkshire, Eastern National, Crossville etc were presumably all part of the same national combine (well they all operated Bristol buses) wasnt' EYMS a seperate concern? Yes Trojan EYMS were indeed a separate concern at the time - at least not part of the "TIlling" Bristol using group. The crux of this little gem is though that WYRCC and EYMS jointly operated services 44/45/46 to Bridlington and Hull and therefore the Alwoodley Cross Roads trip was no doubt arranged in a friendly manner on the principle of "You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours." aaah! Here's a photo of the unique EYMS double deckers which presumably operated this unusual service Unique design indeed Trojan and until the advent of low chassis buses all East Yorkshire normal height double deckers were like this, with a very few exceptions. The shape of the top deck from the window bottoms upwards was designed specifically to allow them to perform the almost impossible manoeuvre of passing through the ancient Beverley Bar which was the same shape. This required driving skill of the highest order, to say nothing of a good degree of nerve, and had to be seen to be believed. Many photos exist showing the dramatic move. The vehicles were universally referred to as having "Beverley Bar roofs" and became un-necessary when the town by pass was built, allowing an acceptable alternative route.The AEC Regent V in your picture has a Willowbrook body, whose incessant rattling windows haunt me still !! Other bodies to the design were by Roe and ECW and, prior to WW2, Brush.

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Sun 11 Jan, 2009 12:22 pm

Just another attempt to show a picture of the famous manoeuvre - if it fails I'll have to "swot up" on posting pictures - used to be able to do it. :First attempt failed - clicking "browse" produces nothing - just one more try :-

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Sun 11 Jan, 2009 12:27 pm

Beverley Bar - one more try for picture :- NO, nothing doing - "Browse" just produces a loud click in the speakers Any help appreciated please.

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 11 Jan, 2009 12:54 pm

BLAKEY wrote: Beverley Bar - one more try for picture :- NO, nothing doing - "Browse" just produces a loud click in the speakers Any help appreciated please.

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 11 Jan, 2009 12:58 pm

BLAKEY wrote: Unique design indeed Trojan and until the advent of low chassis buses all East Yorkshire normal height double deckers were like this, with a very few exceptions. The shape of the top deck from the window bottoms upwards was designed specifically to allow them to perform the almost impossible manoeuvre of passing through the ancient Beverley Bar which was the same shape. This required driving skill of the highest order, to say nothing of a good degree of nerve, and had to be seen to be believed. Many photos exist showing the dramatic move. The vehicles were universally referred to as having "Beverley Bar roofs" and became un-necessary when the town by pass was built, allowing an acceptable alternative route.The AEC Regent V in your picture has a Willowbrook body, whose incessant rattling windows haunt me still !! Other bodies to the design were by Roe and ECW and, prior to WW2, Brush. The Leyland PD3 which I posted the other day, was 14'9" and whilst driving it I was very aware of its height. I took it from Castleford to Buxton and was unable to travel into Buxton down the A6 because there was (it's not there now) a low bridge as the A6 went through Buxton. I therefore had to travel via Chesterfield and up the A6 from the South. I noticed a sign for a bridge and couldn't make my mind up whether it had said 16' or 14', and I was on a narrow road, fortunately it was 16'

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Sun 11 Jan, 2009 4:45 pm

[quotenick="Trojan"] BLAKEY wrote: The Leyland PD3 which I posted the other day, was 14'9" and whilst driving it I was very aware of its height. I took it from Castleford to Buxton and was unable to travel into Buxton down the A6 because there was (it's not there now) a low bridge as the A6 went through Buxton. I therefore had to travel via Chesterfield and up the A6 from the South. I noticed a sign for a bridge and couldn't make my mind up whether it had said 16' or 14', and I was on a narrow road, fortunately it was 16' I know the feeling only too well Trojan - on many a trip to the Tramway Museum at Crich with full height double deckers I've had some hair raising encounters with the bridges of rustic Derbyshire.I can't remember exactly which village, but we once got well and truly lodged under telephone wires which crossed the street. A solution eas found by persuading a householder, far from amused, to allow us to use her nearby bedroom and her long clothes prop to gently raise the wires clear - fortunately they didn't break or detach.As we left she uttered some very clear instructions on how it would be very advisable for us to find another way home - OR ELSE !!

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Sun 11 Jan, 2009 4:48 pm

Trojan wrote: BLAKEY wrote: Beverley Bar - one more try for picture :- NO, nothing doing - "Browse" just produces a loud click in the speakers Any help appreciated please. Yes, that's the cause of all the unusual draughtsmanship Trojan.Any chance of a quick instruction on how to post pictures please ??At one time I could do it, but not now. Much appreciated.

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 11 Jan, 2009 6:21 pm

BLAKEY wrote: Trojan wrote: BLAKEY wrote: Beverley Bar - one more try for picture :- NO, nothing doing - "Browse" just produces a loud click in the speakers Any help appreciated please. Yes, that's the cause of all the unusual draughtsmanship Trojan.Any chance of a quick instruction on how to post pictures please ??At one time I could do it, but not now. Much appreciated. Save the picture you want to post to a file in a jpg format. Make your post, click on "post" when you've posted look at the top of the post for a paperclip logo with a + sign on it, click on this. When the dialog box comes up click on browse, this should take you to the file with the jpg in it, click on the jpg, then just follow the instructions and your picture should appear.

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Mon 12 Jan, 2009 11:41 am

Thanks Trojan - here's a hurried try before I have to rush out this morning - touch wood !!